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You still release it?
That's the whole point, otherwise it's not safe against "make it look like an accident."
Creates a feedback loop to make any death of a whistleblower statistically look like a conspiracy.
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Isn't it? A dead man's switch is a device that triggers an automatic action upon your death. Information and instructions given to a lawyer fits that definition.
Assuming the instructions are in the form of: if you don't hear from me once in some time period, then release the info. If instead they are instructed to release info when they confirm my death, then you could just be made to disappear and death could never be confirmed.
> ... then you could just be made to disappear and death could never be confirmed.
I don't know how it works in the US but there are definitely countries where after x years of disappearance you are legally declared death. And, yes, some people who are still alive and, say, left the EU for some country in South America, are still alive. Which is not my point. My point is that for inheritance purposes etc. there are countries who'll declared you death if you don't give any sign of life for x years.
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The issue is it has to be proven in court. This man was personally responsible for developing web scraping; stealing data from likely copyrighted sources. He would have had communications specifically addressing the legality of his responsibilities, which he was openly questioning his superiors about.
"Stealing data" seems pretty strong. Web scraping is legal. If you put text on the public Internet other people can read it or do statistical processing on it. What do you mean he was "stealing data"? Was he hacking into somewhere?
When you use some webpages, it forces you to agree to an EULA that might preclude web scraping. NYTimes is such a webpage which is why they were sued. This is evidence that OpenAI didn't care about the law. Someone with internal communications about this could completely destroy the company!!!
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#294Wow. Suchir was my project partner in a CS class at Berkeley (Operating Systems!). Incredibly smart, humble, nice person. It was obvious that he was going to do amazing things. This is really awful.
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Every single developed country today touting moral rights has its foundation in those "wrongs". Its citizens gleefully consuming the resources those "wrongs" have created, so they can preach morality online. It is the nature of life itself to "kill and perform violence", children and otherwise. "The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must". Death is, as of now, life's only mechanism for iteration…
Thanks for summarizing so eloquently what is WRONG with the precept that might equals right. If she floats she's a witch, if she drowns she must have been innocent is the flip side fallacy, but what you just outlined amounts to: "i am bad on purpose, what are YOU gonna do about it?" I am disgusted that this is still proferred as a valid moral philosophical principle. No. A thousand times no. The answer is A SYSTEM. T…
> I am disgusted that this is still proferred as a valid moral philosophical principle.
Can you explain what makes it invalid besides the fact that you and me don't like it?
There are no "valid" or "invalid" moral principles, there is no objectively correct morality, nor does the idea even make sense. Morals are historically contingent social phenomena. Over different times and even over different cultures today, they vary dramatically. Everyone has them, and they all think they are right. That quickly reduces all discussion in cases like this to ornate versions of "you're wrong" and "no, YOU'RE wrong."
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The distinction between a copy and a derivative work isn't the issue. A game is expressive content , regardless of whether it's cracked, modified, public domain, or whatever. If you distribute a pirated game, the thing you're distributing contains expressive content, so if somebody else holds copyright to that content then the use is infringing. My point is that with LLM outputs that's not true - according to the cop…
I think you're missing something really obvious here. Piracy is not expressive content. You call it a game, and therefore it must be - but it's not. It's simply an illegal good. It doesn't have to serve any purpose. It cannot be bound by copyright, due to the illegal nature. The Morris Worm wasn't copyrightable content. Something is not required to be expressive content, to be bound under law. That's not a requiremen…
> Piracy is not expressive content. You call it a game, and therefore it must be - but it's not. It's simply an illegal good. It doesn't have to serve any purpose. It cannot be bound by copyright, due to the illegal nature.
To be honest, reading this I have no idea what you think my post said, so I can only ask you to reread it carefully. Obviously nobody would claim "piracy is expressive content" (what would that even mean?). I said a game is expressive content, and that that's why distributing a pirated game infringes copyright.
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I feel the same way but I’m not sure if I should. The internet wildly speculating would probably get back to my mom and sister which would really upset them. Once I’m gone my beliefs/causes wouldn’t be more important than my family’s happiness.
Wouldn't your family want your believes followed through at least?
True, which is what a notary is for. You could encrypt the data to be leaked at a notary, with the private key split using shamir's shared secret among your beloved ones (usually relatives). If all agree, they can review and decide to release the whistleblower's data.
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It’d be hard to draw any conclusion. A whistleblower must be under extreme stress and pressure which in itself in some way or other will increase the risk of death — so that has to be taken account before saying the plausible cause for the excess deaths is assassination.
Let's start with keeping the whistleblowers alive and we have more time to figure out the cause and effect later.
Point.-
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I'd love to see a statistical analysis of whistleblower deaths on the US over the last 15 years. I'd be extremely susprised if it wasn't enormously anomalous.
It’d be hard to draw any conclusion. A whistleblower must be under extreme stress and pressure which in itself in some way or other will increase the risk of death — so that has to be taken account before saying the plausible cause for the excess deaths is assassination.
If whistleblowers are committing suicide at abnormal rates, then maybe we should provide them with more mental health support as a public good.
Publicly making claims and being named as a potential witness in a court case seems a clear line.
F.ex. the resources listed on the US House's Whistleblower Ombuds page: https://whistleblower.house.gov/whistleblower-support-organi...