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We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by bombcar »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #259
stronglikedan wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A movie adaptation of a book is a retelling of a story for a completely different type of audience, so it's an apples to oranges comparison always .

There's a difference between adaptation; and retelling the story in a way that damages the integrity of the original. Many of the above changes don't make sense even within the movie's own material. Even if the books didn't exist, Faramir's filmic story arc (as just one example) would be a badly executed example of character development.

That's the real problem - nobody really cares about Arwen at the Ford vs Glorfindel; it doesn't change the story much at all.

And even changing characters somewhat but still having a development or purpose is arguably fine - it's the changes that aren't good in the context of the movie that are most baffling, especially considering the dedication shown in other areas of the films.

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Post by whycome »

dylan604 wrote: post #92
tavoe wrote: post #79

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Align the incentive with the actual work done? Eg - fundraise to cover the cost of producing the movie and paying the salaries of everyone involved, because physically making a movie costs money. Then give the mp4 away for free because copying a digital file costs nothing. Piracy is only a problem because companies are trying to charge money for copying a file, which is fundamentally free.

Fundraise does not mean what you think it means. Asking your mom for money to make a student film is not the same as making an actual film. People raise funds for movies from investors. Investors want their money back. Nobody goes to the theater any more, so how else are they going to pay back the investors if they can't sell the product they made. This isn't Uber just burning investors cash. Why does nobody expect t…

Fundraising doesn't mean what you think it means. Investors aren't looking for their money back. They're looking to make additional money. Fundraising is saying that the money goes towards the creation of that end product and that's it.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by whycome »

hx8 wrote: post #126
fidotron wrote: post #108

Not mentioning the non-skippable anti piracy noise that ironically made the legit product worse than the pirated one poisoned the well for interactive features later on Blu Ray. Who cares about getting extras if they are hidden behind obnoxious menus and abusive junk when the Internet will tell you anyway? That said I remember that era fondly because of things like the Tartan output. In the UK if you had a multi regi…

If I recall correctly these anti-piracy statements were like 10 seconds out of 2 hours of runtime. Hardly makes the product poisoned.

The kind that prevented user interaction? With multiple ads? Forcing you to watch?

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by openrisk »

infecto wrote: post #280
openrisk wrote: post #145

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> living in a world of constraints kinda funny to think you are not subject to constraints when your access to the limitless potential library can be revoked at any moment. pressumably you also don't own any house, car, books, clothes, etc. as that gives you limitless potential to rent stuff.

I already acknowledged that your at risk of the vendor going out of business or any other way, losing access to the content. Except for the outlier movie fanatic, its never been better for the consumer imo. I enjoy movies and watch quite a few and I think its fantastic how easy it is for me to rent and stream what I watch. I have no desire to buy a film. Even physical media, the cost of purchase and storing it is too…

Anything streamed could also be delived as physical media at marginal extra cost, indeed for those that want it and can afford these few extra bucks. Actually on a lifetime basis and taking into account multiple viewings within family etc. it may even be advantageous. One can think many other use cases where having the media locally makes a difference. You are saying "it doesn't apply to me", which is fine, but it is hard to understand how not having an extra option is somehow better for everybody.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by LinuxBender »

We all took the DVD boom era for granted

I did not take it for granted at all. My DVDs can not be cancelled, do not require internet or streaming accounts. Most of them have bonus features that the streaming providers do not always offer. Solar power and a portable player means I am not restricted to books during a prolonged power outage. Please do bring back a greater DVD boom but do not bring in any physical media that requires checking for a license.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by NGRhodes »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #132
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #45

Why bother with DVDs when you have torrents and russian streaming sites...

Because paying for the art I enjoy is the right thing to do, so I do it.

I have donated hundreds to charity purchasing my used DVDs from charity shops.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by infecto »

openrisk wrote: post #294
infecto wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I already acknowledged that your at risk of the vendor going out of business or any other way, losing access to the content. Except for the outlier movie fanatic, its never been better for the consumer imo. I enjoy movies and watch quite a few and I think its fantastic how easy it is for me to rent and stream what I watch. I have no desire to buy a film. Even physical media, the cost of purchase and storing it is too…

Anything streamed could also be delived as physical media at marginal extra cost, indeed for those that want it and can afford these few extra bucks. Actually on a lifetime basis and taking into account multiple viewings within family etc. it may even be advantageous. One can think many other use cases where having the media locally makes a difference. You are saying "it doesn't apply to me", which is fine, but it is…

The marginal cost would be quite large because there are very few customers that want a physical disc.

I am not arguing that there should not be alternatives but rather customers don’t want those alternatives so the cost to make a dvd/Blu-ray for less than .1% of your market can be quite expensive.

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Post by [deleted] »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #258
butlike wrote: post #116

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Not to mention if I physically own the media, I'm legally allowed to make as many backups as I want as long as I don't share them. Streaming conveniently removed this feature.

Well yes, but actually no (at least if you're in the USA). The DMCA prevents the circumvention of copy protection measures, which means that by ripping a blu-ray or DVD, you're committing a crime. This is doubly bullshit in that before the DMCA was passed, copying your physical media was always legal and if you were caught distributing unauthorized copies without being paid for them, you were not a criminal but only…

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by MrVandemar »

darknavi wrote: post #187
hx8 wrote: post #126

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If I recall correctly these anti-piracy statements were like 10 seconds out of 2 hours of runtime. Hardly makes the product poisoned.

Experience matters, especially for consumer goods like media. Unskippable notices about piracy that are only shown to people who have pirated is silly and clunky. You can probably tell this by the fact that none of the streaming services show something similar. This will sound very silly, but one of my favorite features of my Tesla Model 3 is that it doesn't stall the screen for 5-10 seconds every. single. time. you…

> you get in the car reminding you to drive safely and to pay attention to the road.

That sounds astoundingly patronising. Can't you just turn the car on and drive without a public service annoucement?

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Post by MrVandemar »

cubefox wrote: post #49

That fact that all the bonus material on DVDs (documentaries, audio commentaries, story board drawings etc) was hardly appreciated at the time until it went away in the Netflix era is something that also reminds me of movie awards. Many film classics were only really appreciated years later, and we are left to wonder why they didn't won an Academy Award at the time while some other totally unremarkable movie took it…

The Academy Awards are a poor indicator of movie quality, largely because the process is flawed and prone to all sorts of bias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Awards#Criticism_and_c...

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