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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Amazon Prime isn't so great. Lots of for rent/purchase content or content with ads these days. And they end up repeating slots of content in all the rows in their UI, so I end up seeing the same suggestions everywhere rather than much that's new (other than first party productions). To me they're basically padding their front page. But honestly that's most of the major streaming platforms these days. I recently cance…

I recently found a lil dvd rental place in my city. It’s a non-profit, they also do archivals and stuff. It’s pretty much a two-story townhouse packed head to toe with DVDs (lots of blu rays!) You don’t realize how limited the streaming collection is until you’re back in a movie store, looking through thousands and thousands of movies you would never find otherwise. Since I found it, I’ve started doing movie night ev…

Heh Heh Heh. Maybe there will be a resurgence of Blockbuster style retail stores... ;)

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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I'm an engineering manager at a Fortune 500 company. The dumbest engineer on our team left for Netflix. He got a pay raise too. Our engineers are fucking morons. And this guy was the dumbest of the bunch. If you think Netflix hires top tier talent, you don't know Netflix.

You ever thought they were doing the bare minimum and studying at night to leave?

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I can +1 with a similar anecdote. They obviously have some really good engineers, but many low-tier ones as well. No idea how long they stay there, though. I'm watching the fight now and have experienced the buffering issues. Bit embarrassing for a company that fundamentally only does a single thing, which is this. Also, yeah, 900k TC and whatnot but irl you get this. Mediocre.

I have to wonder if its a regional thing. I'm watching from the southern pacific in HD, and its been excellent.

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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So the issue is that Netflix gets its performance from colocating caches of movies in ISP datacenters, and a live broadcast doesn't work with that. It's not just about the sheer numbers of viewers, it's that a live model totally undermines their entire infrastructure advantage. See: https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/

Damn that sucks. I wonder if they could have intentionally streamed it 5 min late? I don’t have all the context around the fight though — maybe a competing service would win if Netflix intentionally induced delay?

they were introducing 5 minute delays on some of the clients. I noticed my ipad was always live and the smart tv had a 5 minute delay but you could fast forward to live.

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Our engineers are fucking morons If your "dumbest engineer" got a job and a hefty raise going to Netflix, it means he was very capable engineer who was playing the part of moron at this Fortune 500 company because he was reporting to a manager who was calling him and the entire team morons and he didn't feel the need to go above and beyond for that manager. Also, highly likely that it was the manager that was the mor…

> If your "dumbest engineer" got a job and a hefty raise going to Netflix, it means he was very capable engineer who was playing the part of moron It's also possible that there's very little correlation between capability, reputation and salary. Don't we all know someone who is overpaid? There are more than a few well known cases of particular employers who select for overpaid employees...

> Don't we all know someone who is overpaid?

Yes, usually managers.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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that’s totally unacceptable for live sports which people are able to bet on

I don't bet so I have no clue, but why is that? Are people able to place bets in the middle of the match or something? I would have assumed bets get locked in when the fight starts

Idk about traditional sports books but on Polymarket you can certainly continue betting at any time until the market resolves.

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

Based on this I'm wondering whether it was straight up they did not expect it to be this popular?

> Some Cricket graphs of our #Netflix cache for the #PaulVsTyson fight. It has a 40 Gbps connection and it held steady almost 100% saturated the entire time.

https://fosstodon.org/@atoponce/113491103342509883

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Netflix is good only on streaming ready made content, not live streaming, but; 1. Netflix is a 300B company, this isn't a resources issue. 2. This isn't the first time they have done live streaming at this scale either. They already have prior failure experience, you expect the 2nd time to be better, if not perfect. 3. There were plenty of time between first massive live streaming to second. Meaning plenty of time to…

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