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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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We’ve had them in office before, plus plenty of public statements over the last 10 years. It’s not exactly baseless speculation. People have things to base their guesses on.

Let's not pretend everyone is aghast at the goals of this administration. We just had an election and these viewpoints resoundingly won the day. A non-trivial component to this election was this constant, smug nagging. "We know better, you're all so stupid". If you turn out to be right, enjoy your smug "I told you so", but until then - these views are a minority and are very tiring to constantly see/hear/read.

Your browser has an X button (I suspect)

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

Aside from the distracted driving part, which is real, there are two physical aspects of the model 3 that I find to be safety issues as well-- the two front windshield beams are thick and add a sort of blind spot, and the side mirrors don't give you great field of view.

Same with both of my Mitsubishis. There's a roundabout near where I live that, when approaching it from one angle, the "beam" on the right hand side of the windshield totally obscures the whole road leading to the roundabout from another angle.

I have to shift in my seat to crane around to see if there is oncoming traffic I have to give way to.

They're both 10+ year old cars.

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I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

If that happens, that would be the most efficient form of regulatory capture yet!

That’s not what regulatory capture is

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Let's not pretend everyone is aghast at the goals of this administration. We just had an election and these viewpoints resoundingly won the day. A non-trivial component to this election was this constant, smug nagging. "We know better, you're all so stupid". If you turn out to be right, enjoy your smug "I told you so", but until then - these views are a minority and are very tiring to constantly see/hear/read.

Why is tiring to hear a minority especially in this forum?

It wouldn't be of it was not just different variations of "Hitler Hitler Hitler, Russia Russia Russia!"

We've been hearing how doomed democracy is for the better part of 10 years now. It's really old...

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not pretend everyone is aghast at the goals of this administration. We just had an election and these viewpoints resoundingly won the day. A non-trivial component to this election was this constant, smug nagging. "We know better, you're all so stupid". If you turn out to be right, enjoy your smug "I told you so", but until then - these views are a minority and are very tiring to constantly see/hear/read.

Why is tiring to hear a minority especially in this forum?

Because you are sharing legacy media's views. We can turn on a tv for that.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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I'd love to see some sort of multiple regression or ANOVA on this, instead of singling out a single variable. Is car brand really the best independent predictor? Or is it specific design decisions you tend to see in certain brands? (Like, say, maximizing driver distraction by consolidating a bunch of essential controls and information displays into a touchscreen display that's really difficult to operate when it's su…

I mean, even lacking proper scientific data, ask yourself how often your brain “autocompletes” someone based on a brand or object? There’s a reason advertisers spend so much money and effort cultivating a very specific customer image: it works . In the case of Tesla - and I cannot overstress enough how much lf this is purely subjective conjecture on my part and not a statement of fact - the image cultivated by the co…

You highlighted the correlation. I bet GoPro users have the highest fatality rate of all camera brands.

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Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

> I loathe it They are planning to appoint a nutjob who has publicly that he admitted cutting off the heads of whale carcasses with a chainsaw and dumping dead bears in the Central Park for "fun". Presumably he is also consuming those rotting animals carcasses that he keeps finding somehow (how else do you get brain worms?) to be the new US health secretary. Seriously... what else do you need to know?

He has respect and years of experience in this field and a strong vision. Your talking points are things we might here on the view.

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Even a decent town puts most things within a walk or bike ride. San Luis Obispo comes to mind as an example.

I've never understood the argument about small towns being worse for urbanism. Back in the day, before cars were widespread, everything had to be close by. You don't even have to sacrifice the backyard for that, you can have a city layout that puts the houses themselves fairly close to each other, and the yards can radiate outwards. Then you connect each cluster's main street with the other ones, but unlike suburbs,…

>> Back in the day, before cars were widespread, everything had to be close by.

My grandparents, and their parents and grandparents before them, all grew up on farms (as did the majority of Americans during that time).

No, everything did not have to be close by.

They certainly did appreciate cars when they became affordable though.

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Respectfully, why not? That's the whole point of campaigning. I seriously hope an incoming administration has a plan before they get to office. "I wouldn't change anything" fortunately doesn't seem to win elections when everything's sideways.

Campaigning is customarily done before elections, not after.

Campaigning is done right happens between elections. In most countries you only have 4/6 weeks. As Kim Campbell of Canada famously said an election is not the time to debate issues. Now the US has a much longer campaign period.. and elections every 2 years. They are always campaigning.

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I heard EVs are very heavy, how can they be faster?

EVs have full torque at 0 RPM so they are capable of accelerating much faster than an average ICE. The manufacturer can alter based on software, how much current the electrical system is capable of supplying, how powerful the motors are, etc. But even “normal non-performance” EVs that aren’t designed for performance like a Chevy Bolt come off the line way quicker than an equivalent normal car, even if they’re full 0…

I recently drove a 2014 Nissan Leaf. Not exactly a performance oriented EV, and the acceleration it's capable of is 'nice'. Not crazy, but was unexpectedly good given it's 10 years old and only trying to be an EV rather than a "hey look I'm an EV!!!".
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