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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by JohnFen »

reaperducer wrote: post #266
brianjlogan wrote: post #242

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This is your tried and true. C level read a magazine, mandatory implementation order, engineer ticks the checkbox and waits for hype to pass so they can remove it.

C level read a magazine, mandatory implementation order A magazine would be an improvement. I worked in a place where the owners were very susceptible to airport billboard ads. Every time they came back from a trip, we would brace for change.

A scary version of this is driven home to me when I go to Washington DC and see all of the very expensive billboards at commuter stations near the Pentagon advertising fighter jets and other military equipment.

It scares me every time because they wouldn't be splashing out the big bucks for those billboards if they weren't effective, and I absolutely don't want the military (or any other entity engaging in major expenditures) to be making those decisions based on billboards.

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Post by gnabgib »

lupusreal wrote: post #285
bruce511 wrote: post #273

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Hang on - notepad is the perfect place for a "rewrite my text" feature. And clearly its a useful too in a writing app that users would like. I get your complaint in general, but it does not seem like this is a good example of throwing random unrelated stuff in.

Last I saw, notepad didn't even have a spell checker. LLM integration seems very out of place in such an otherwise minimal editor.

It recently gained a spellcheck (4 months ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40907284

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Post by fsflover »

nicce wrote: post #178
pantulis wrote: post #177

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Also traffic could be encrypted

Yes, it is TLS encrypted, but you can decrypt that. As far as I know, there isn't other encryption.

I never saw anybody able to decrypt Windows telemetry traffic.

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Post by dangerwill »

kgeist wrote: post #287
lupusreal wrote: post #285

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Last I saw, notepad didn't even have a spell checker. LLM integration seems very out of place in such an otherwise minimal editor.

An LLM can technically fix spelling

ChatGPT still thinks Mississippi has an R in it sometimes.

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Post by EasyMark »

aithrowawaycomm wrote: post #59
zigman1 wrote: post #25

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But you can still open multiple windows?

It doesn't open in new windows by default, which was enough for me to stop using it.

I think it takes maybe 3 clicks to set up "old style notepad". I don't understand the harsh criticism? I don't use it myself since I have a sublime license, and st3 opens up instantly, but I don't think the new changes to notepad are the end of the world.

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Post by marcosdumay »

llm_nerd wrote: post #265
autoexec wrote: post #255

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> They're shoving AI everywhere because it's extraordinarily powerful and truly differentiating. How does this explain the fact that people don't want AI. Just having AI in your product description makes people hate your product ( https://www.techspot.com/news/104122-study-finds-including-a... ) As soon as AI is added to anything people immediately start googling how to disable it (including when google added AI)

>Just having AI in your product description makes people hate your product They compare "AI" to "New Technology", and there was a mild preference for the phrase "New Technology". Casting that as "hating" it is a bit of a misrepresentation. Further "AI" as a general term is mysterious and unknown. One of their examples was an "AI-Powered TV"...like, what does that even mean? Or an "AI-powered financial service". They…

It's a 15% reduction on intention to buy (on the TV case, 20% on the car) just by putting AI there on the name is a really big deal. That's about half of the deviation on the data.

The ugly is that it's a self-reported poll, but it's a well run self-reported poll, with a large effect, and good statistical relevance.

The actual article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19368623.2024.2...

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Post by JohnFen »

llm_nerd wrote: post #271
croes wrote: post #235

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If AI is so powerful why don’t we see a massive productivity spike around the globe? It may be convenient but more than once just replaced the time I needed to write my code by time fine tuning the prompt because the AI didn’t quite got what I wanted. On top of that I must review foreign code. That’s harder than code I already know. And on top of that the end result lacks the feeling of accomplishment in solving a pr…

>If AI is so powerful why don’t we see a massive productivity spike around the globe? We overestimate the short term effects and underestimate the long term effects (Amara's law). We're currently in the trough of disillusionment where people are running around saying that AI failed, was overblown, etc, while people like me are working with corporations to completely change how they operate, to an outrageous efficienc…

> Our world is going to look very different in a decade.

I agree with this. I just seriously doubt that it's going to look better because of it. I suspect the opposite.

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Post by SubiculumCode »

rqtwteye wrote: post #236

This seems to be a common trend everywhere. Instead of improving core functionality they add the latest buzzword tech, no matter it make sense or not. I am user of GaiaGPS to plan outdoors trips. Same there: the app is good but has some problems. Instead of fixing the problems they added social functionality which nobody really wants.

whiplash response, imo. Text editors have had how long again to work on improving core functionality?

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Post by DCH3416 »

BobaFloutist wrote: post #233
mikae1 wrote: post #227

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> The reliance on crusty old ass applications like those on Windows is actually kinda depressing. macOS is the most consistent OS and Windows the least [1]. With the exception of IrfanView I find neither of those apps particularly crusty though. There's https://imageglass.org I personally moved from macOS to KDE Plasma and I'm a happy camper as long as I stay with Plasma/Qt apps. [1] https://ntdev.blog/2021/02/06/sta…

VLC is pretty damn crusty, especially to anyone not familiar with that particular....design ethos. Don't get me wrong, it's an incredible endeavor and the developers deserve endless praise, but for people that aren't already familiar with navigating things like GIMP, KDE, Open/LibreOffice, it's not especially welcoming.

You critics stay away from VLC. I swear if I have to deal with another "modern" UI implementation.

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Post by marcosdumay »

_1tem wrote: post #69

Why do writing tools have to be a feature of every app instead of an operating-system wide tool like Apple Intelligence? Makes no sense whatsoever to just "sprinkle AI everywhere" except for specialized use cases.

Is the Windows Copilot not that? There has been annoying focus-killing long-form automatic autocomplete replacing the text popping in every kind of text area on the computer I use at work. Is this being done on each application?
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