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Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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How many OSS repositories do I personally have to read through for my own code to be considered stolen property? That line of thought would get thrown out of court faster than an AI would generate it.

It's not your reading that would be illegal, but your copying. This is well a documented area of the law and there are concrete answers to your questions.

Are you saying that if I see a nice programming pattern in someone else’s code, I am not allowed to use that pattern in my code?

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I use cursor and its tab completion; while what it can do is mind blowing, in practice I’m not noticing a productivity boost. I find that ai can help significantly with doing plumbing, but it has no problems with connecting the pipes wrong. I need to double and triple check the updated code - or fix the resulting errors when I don’t do that. So: boilerplate and outer app layers, yes; architecture and core libraries,…

I'd love an autoselected LLM that is fine-tuned to the syntax I'm actively using -- Cursor has a bit of a head start, but where Github and others can take it could be mindblowing (Cursor's moat is a decent VS Code extension -- I'm not sure it's a deep moat though).

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I mentored junior SWE and CS students for years, and now using Claude as a coding assistant feels very similar. Yesterday, it suggested implementing a JSON parser from scratch in C to avoid a dependency -- and, unsurprisingly, the code didn’t work. Two main differences stand out: 1) the LLM doesn’t learn from corrections (at least not directly), and 2) the feedback loop is seconds instead of days. This speed is so co…

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I don’t like using AI assistants in my editor; I prefer to keep it as clean as possible. So, I manually copy relevant parts of the code into ChatGPT, ask my question, and continue interacting until I get what I need. It’s a bit manual, but since I use GPT for other tasks, it’s convenient to have a single interface for everything.

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Google Cloud's article is from tomorrow? https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/g... https://i.postimg.cc/RVWSfpvs/grafik.png

It’s October 30th in several parts of the world already. It’s after midnight everywhere GMT+7 onwards.

Obviously! However, Google being an American company, that was surprising. I'm in Europe and am used to seeing newest posts "from yesterday" when they are from the USA. This one is weird.

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That’s the thing, isn’t it? The craft of programming in the small is one of being intimate with the details, thinking things through conscientiously. LLMs don’t do that.

Perhaps it should be prompted to then? Ask it to review its own code for any problems? Also identify typical and corner cases and generate tests? Question marks here because I have not used the tool. The size & depth of each accepted code step is still up to the developer slash prompter

How long are you willing to iterate to get things right?

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How many OSS repositories do I personally have to read through for my own code to be considered stolen property? That line of thought would get thrown out of court faster than an AI would generate it.

I assume you're not an AI model, but a real human being (I hope). The analogy "AI == human" just... doesn't work, really.

That’s beside the point.

Me teaching my brain someone’s way of syntactically expressing procedures is analogous to AI developers teaching their model that same mode of expression.

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How many OSS repositories do I personally have to read through for my own code to be considered stolen property? That line of thought would get thrown out of court faster than an AI would generate it.

This seems bit nihilistic. You can't be automated. You can't process repos at scale.

Yet.

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I mentored junior SWE and CS students for years, and now using Claude as a coding assistant feels very similar. Yesterday, it suggested implementing a JSON parser from scratch in C to avoid a dependency -- and, unsurprisingly, the code didn’t work. Two main differences stand out: 1) the LLM doesn’t learn from corrections (at least not directly), and 2) the feedback loop is seconds instead of days. This speed is so co…

Does speed matter when it's not getting better and learning from corrections? I think I'd rather give someone a problem and have them come back with something that works in a couple days (answering a question here or there), rather than spend my time doing it myself because I'm getting fast, but wrong, results that aren't improving from the AI.

> though I sometimes wonder where we’ll find mid-level and senior developers tomorrow if we stop hiring juniors today.

This is also a key point. While there is a lot of short term thinking these days, since people don't stick with companies like they used to. As a person who has been with my company for close to 20 years, making sure things can still run once you leave is important from a business perspective.

Training isn't about today, it's about tomorrow. I've trained a lot of people, and doing it myself would always be faster in the moment. But it's about making the team better and making sure more people have more skill, to reduce single points of failure and ensure business continuity over the long-term. Not all of it pays off, but when it does, it pays off big.

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