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Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by neoromantique »

yeputons wrote: post #250
afr0ck wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "some Russian-sounding names are banned, but we still have to demonstrate there is a due process". That's not true! There are still many Russian maintainers in the kernel, but they are not based in Russia. They only banned individuals, based in Russia, who are employed by sanctioned companies.

As a neighboring comment mentioned, at least one banned individual seems to be based in the US is employed by Amazon, as per their LinkedIn, including some old posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41933300 They just happened to still use their older .ru email in the MAINTAINERS file.

Then he should send that info and he will be reinstated :shrug:

Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by protomolecule »

Wytwwww wrote: post #288
protomolecule wrote: post #210

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>That certainly absolves That was a strawman argument.

Really how so? Is that not what you were implying? Or what was your point exactly? Besides the claim that Sadam being not guilty of some small subset accusations targeting him somehow changes anything?

Just that atrocity propaganda is the modus operandi of the US and its protégés. We see it again and again.

Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by francotenn »

immibis wrote: post #236
worstspotgain wrote: post #178

Apparently (quelle surprise) Linus is getting swarmed by Russian trolls like a US swing-state voter. From https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Russian-Devs Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about. It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything. And FYI for…

That's fine, but we would like to see the orders he received and the evidence. This patch is outrageous because of the lack of transparency, not the patch itself if there's a good reason for it. Linus and Greg appear to be not only not posting a reason, but trying to keep the reason secret.

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Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by chingfeng »

krick wrote: post #134
Timber-6539 wrote: post #124

My initial reaction reading the thread was just to shake my head. What's the point of open source?

I guess that's it. Open source is a fantasy that started coming to an end about 15 years ago. We lived in a fantasy world in 90s-00s, where there were no governments, no corporations and almost no people that make you shake your head. It was so easy (and of course silly, in the hindsight) to believe, that the internet is some another world, where earthly matters do not concern us. And everything was just about improv…

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Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by Wytwwww »

protomolecule wrote: post #293
Wytwwww wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really how so? Is that not what you were implying? Or what was your point exactly? Besides the claim that Sadam being not guilty of some small subset accusations targeting him somehow changes anything?

Just that atrocity propaganda is the modus operandi of the US and its protégés. We see it again and again.

Was it? The were perfectly fine with ignoring the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed by Saddam's government during the revolt they instigated in 1991 because they didn't want to get involved or remove him from power at the time.

Even in 2003 that wasn't anywhere close to being the primary reason.

> We see it again and again.

That doesn't change those facts...

Are you saying that Saddam didn't commit the atrocities that he did because US government said he did?

Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by pvaldes »

wiseowise wrote: post #265
fuoqi wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such a blatant BS rationalization... The commit literally talks about "compliance". This is nothing more than an easy alternative to navigating the obscure sanctioning regime. It's like self-censorship, people/companies do this because of the fear that their activity may fall under sanctions, even though it highly likely does not. If your system relies on people being in "a free country with rights and ethics", then…

> After all, who decides which country is "free" and which is not? Not being in active occupation war would be a good start.

And not killing journalists or the opposition would be also a nice touch. Or not jailing people for having an opinion about the army.

Re: Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status

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Post by pvaldes »

braincat31415 wrote: post #55
FredPret wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they can fork it and roll their own version of Linux. Russia-ux.

Not sure if you are joking or not, but BRICS certainly have enough developers for that effort, especially if it is encouraged and financed by the member states. I would not be surprised if this happens.

But, would they accept Putinux as the obligatory name?
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