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Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by accrual »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #263

Not that I'm scared of this update but I'd probably be alright with pausing llm development today, atleast in regard to producing code. I don't want an llm to write all my code, regardless of if it works, I like to write code. What these models are capable of at the moment is perfect for my needs and I'd be 100% okay if they didn't improve at all going forward. Edit: also I don't see how an llm controlled system can…

I have trouble with this too. I'm working on a small side project and while I love ironing out implementation details myself, it's tough to ignore the fact that Claude/GPT4o can create entire working files for me on demand.

It's still enjoyable working at a higher architecture level and discussing the implementation before actually generating any code though.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by largbae »

_3u10 wrote: post #285
accrual wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing models act as though they have agency gives me goosebumps (e.g. seeking out photos of Yellowstone for fun). LLMs don't yet have a concept of true intent or agency, but it's wild to think of them acquiring it. I have been playing with Mindcraft which lets models interact with Minecraft through the bot API and one of them started saying things like "I want to place some cobblestone there" and then later more gen…

What if they do and are just lying to us.

https://genius.com/Harlan-ellison-i-have-no-mouth-and-i-must...

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by skybrian »

ctoth wrote: post #181
skybrian wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems a little silly to pretend there’s a scaling “law” without plotting any points or doing a projection. Without the mathiness, we could instead say that new models keep getting better and we don’t know how long that trend will continue.

> It seems a little silly to pretend there’s a scaling “law” without plotting any points or doing a projection. Isn't this Kaplan 2020 or Hoffmann 2022?

Yes, those are scaling laws, but when we see vendors improving their models without increasing model size or training longer, they don't apply. There are apparently other ways to improve performance and we don't know the laws for those.

(Sometimes people track the learning curve for an industry in other ways, though.)

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by quantadev »

janalsncm wrote: post #271

Reminds me of the rise in job application bots. People are applying to thousands of jobs using automated tools. It’s probably one of the inevitable use cases of this technology. It makes me think. Perhaps the act of applying to jobs will go extinct. Maybe the endgame is that as soon as you join a website like Monster or LinkedIn, you immediately “apply” to every open position, and are simply ranked against every othe…

The `Hiring Process` in America is definitely BADLY broken. Maybe worldwide afaik. It's a far too difficult, time-consuming, and painful process for everyone involved.

I have a feeling AI can fix this, although I'd never allow an AI bot to interview me. I just mean other ways of using AI to help the process.

Also people are hired for all kinds of reasons having little to do with their qualifications lots of the time, and often due to demographics (race, color, age, etc), and this is another way maybe AI can help by hiding those aspects of a candidate somehow.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by afro88 »

HanClinto wrote: post #13

Why not rev the numbers? "3.5" vs. "3.5 New" feels weird -- is there a particular reason why Anthropic doesn't want to call this 3.6 (or even 3.5.1)?

Just guessing here, but I think the name "sonnet" is the architecture, the number is the training structure / method, and the model date (not shown) is the data? So presumably with just better data they improved things significantly? Again, just a guess.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by edm0nd »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #276
gzer0 wrote: post #182

One of the funnier things during training with the new API (which can control your computer) was this: "Even while recording these demos, we encountered some amusing moments. In one, Claude accidentally stopped a long-running screen recording, causing all footage to be lost. Later, Claude took a break from our coding demo and began to peruse photos of Yellowstone National Park." [0] https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1…

You'll know AGI is here when it takes time out to go talk to ChatGPT, or another instance of itself, or maybe goes down a rabbit hole of watching YouTube music videos.

ADHDGpt

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by criddell »

highwaylights wrote: post #81

Completely irrelevant, and it might just be me, but I really like Anthropic's understated branding. OpenAI's branding isn't exactly screaming in your face either, but for something that's generated as much public fear/scaremongering/outrage as LLMs have over the last couple of years, Anthropic's presentation has a much "cosier" veneer to my eyes. This isn't the Skynet Terminator wipe-us-all-out AI, it's the adorable…

As a Kurt Vonnegut fan, their asterisk logo on claude.ai always amuses me. It must be intentional:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Claude_Ai.svg

https://www.redmolotov.com/vonnegut-ahole-tshirt

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by bongodongobob »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #216

And today I realized that despite it being an extremely common activity, we don’t really have a word for “using the computer” which is distinct from “computing”. It’s funny because AI models are always “using a computer” but now they can “use your computer.”

Operating a computer?

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Post by smartician »

jampekka wrote: post #225

It's quite sad that application interoperability requires parsing bitmaps instead of exchanging structured information. Feels like a devastating failure in how we do computing.

If the goal is to emulate human behavior, I'd say there is a case to be made to build for the same interface, and not rely on separate APIs that may or may not reflect the same information as a user sees.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by edm0nd »

accrual wrote: post #121
highwaylights wrote: post #81

Completely irrelevant, and it might just be me, but I really like Anthropic's understated branding. OpenAI's branding isn't exactly screaming in your face either, but for something that's generated as much public fear/scaremongering/outrage as LLMs have over the last couple of years, Anthropic's presentation has a much "cosier" veneer to my eyes. This isn't the Skynet Terminator wipe-us-all-out AI, it's the adorable…

I have to agree. I've been chatting with Claude for the first time in a couple days and while it's very on-par with ChatGPT 4o in terms of capability, it has this difficult-to-quantify feeling of being warmer and friendlier to interact with. I think the human name, serif font, system prompt, and tendency to create visuals contributes to this feeling.

I've been finding Sonnet 3.5 is way better than ChatGPT 4o when it comes to python and programming.
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