iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by digital_sawzall » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

ghaff wrote: post #271

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

>If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. I was with you up to there. Do you really think that people are so lazy or stupid that they wouldn't go to any of the zillion battery replacement places (including Apple Stores) rather than buying a new $1K-$1.5K device?

I have a 2015 Macbook pro and an iphone 11 that works great save for that they don't hold a charge.

I would happily spend a several hundreds dollars to save these and continue to use them, or give one to my parents or kid, but I can't find someone who will do a battery replacement. I live in Austin TX and have called 3-5 different apple repair shops. If I can't find someone to do it in a city with the second largest Apple office in the world, I don't think anyone else will be able to.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by amelius » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #275

paxys wrote: post #269

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> All the spectacular advances in computing power are lost on her as this makes zero difference for the Facebook cat video group and Pinterest. Gonna disagree with this one. Tell me, does using an iPhone today feel significantly faster than the top model 2-3 years ago or even 10 years ago? Does the battery last a lot longer than it did back then? Apple certainly claims this is the case in their marketing every year.…

> does using an iPhone today feel significantly faster than one from 2-3 years ago? Yes. Absolutely. We just forget that opening an app--or restarting the device, or recovering from airplane mode--was an action that incurred a noticeable delay once and does not tend to anymore.

Sorry but you just contradicted yourself.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by zombiwoof » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

afavour wrote: post #202

panarky wrote: post #158

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"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

> With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. None of that was coming from Apple, though. I don't think they can be held responsible for hype that gets put on them. IMO these are all solid moves into AI integration without getting carried away by hype and doing things that will have very middling results.

Apple called AI “Apple intelligence”. It’s on them to live up to that smug claim. They didn’t

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by llm_nerd » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

swyx wrote: post #242

llm_nerd wrote: post #216

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"- camera adds events to calendar!" I'm on iOS 18.0 on my iPhone 15 Pro, rather that the 18.1 with the "AI". Recently had an eye doctor appt for one of my children and they scheduled a follow-up, giving me a little card with the details. I was in a hurry so took a picture of it intending to enter the calendar event later, and it immediately pulled up a fully-filled in, completely accurate new calendar event. Little a…

oh so you're saying this is not an Apple Intelligence feature? its a little hard to tell

They have their big generative AI push with 18.1, broadly called Apple Intelligence, but they've been building so many AI inference features for a few iterations now, with the camera and Photos getting loads of those additions. Object detection, subject identification, text extraction, etc, though this was the first time I've taken a picture of an appointment card and had it automate extraction like this.

I feel like loads of these features just quietly appear to be randomly discovered by users.

So it's AI, but not the big hype stuff that gets most of the attention.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

GenerocUsername wrote: post #266

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Apple is a trillion dollar battery company.

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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:07 PM UTC

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by amelius » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:07 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #277

GenerocUsername wrote: post #266

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Apple is a trillion dollar battery company.

The joke I want to make is they make phones that are as fragile as glass and that's why people replace them so often... but they actually make phones out of glass that are stupidly fragile. It's equally stupid that you have to buy this thing and put a protective case on it that increases it's size x%. Why is the back of my phone glass. Why does the front of my phone have 0 protection from the glass hitting whatever i…

They're not making phones. They make vending machines that go in your pocket.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by ben_w » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:07 PM UTC

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Even as an iOS app developer, there's a huge amount of stuff that stock iOS can do that I'm unaware of.

At this point, I'm not going to be interested (dead battery isn't "interested") in the upgrade cycle until there's a new kind of sensor, e.g. thermal imaging or (technically possible in software) repurposing the WiFi as a wall penetrating radar.

Even on the dev side, WWDC for the last few years feels more like "here's an even more complicated way to create a simple app" instead of "this will make your life easier because x" or "y is increasing important, use tool z to support it".

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by 1123581321 » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:07 PM UTC

antisthenes wrote: post #154

rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

I've always wondered what a VP of marketing does at a company that already has a de-facto monopoly on their biggest market as well as in the luxury segment worldwide. Come out once a year and say "we made this thing bigger and better"? Must be nice to get paid $25mil/year for that.

I’ve read that Apple marketing has a hand in product direction. But yeah, maybe they are paid more for what they don’t say and keep others from saying. :)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kvgr » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 9:07 PM UTC

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I am professional android developer for more than 10 years. And even i dont care about the features anymore. Outside my work i just want good battery life and big screen. I have iphone 12 and dont plan to upgrade until it stops working. Probably professional exhaustion. But i honestly care about the newest buzz.