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Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by binary132 »

Freak_NL wrote: post #140
knallfrosch wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking a wild guess, I'd say binary132's main concern was the lasting effect on the consumers, not the producers. Girls' broken self-image, male porn addiction, substituting real intimacy, proliferating bad sex practises just to name a few.

Doesn't that put it in the same realm as alcohol? Best enjoyed in moderation and all that. Those concerns are valid, but not necessarily solved by shunning porn. Besides, where do you draw the line?

Personally I consider it more along the lines of heroin.

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Post by blackhawkC17 »

paxys wrote: post #281

> The company counted an average of only 42 employees in 2023, down from 61 two years earlier. During the year, it generated $31MM in net revenue per employee (13-28x that of Amazon, Apple, Google, and Microsoft) and $15.5MM in operating profit (27-560x). This is the wildest part. One company that is proving all the "why does need 10000 engineers?" takes true.

They employ hundreds of contractors to run the operations.

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Post by fakedang »

avianlyric wrote: post #200
duggan wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I understand it isn't Stripe setting policy on this, it's Mastercard/Visa. Though presumably, ultimately, it's really government.

It’s a bit of a mix. Mastercard/Visa do set some policies around this, but only due to, quite frankly undemocratic, political pressure. There been a few documented cases of particularly puritanical US politicians sending letters and making arbitrary public claims to “embarrass” Mastercard/Visa into restricting certain types of perfectly legal commerce. The impact of these policies is a bit arbitrary, as Mastercard/Vi…

> Mastercard/Visa do set some policies around this, but only due to, quite frankly undemocratic, political pressure. There been a few documented cases of particularly puritanical US politicians sending letters and making arbitrary public claims to “embarrass” Mastercard/Visa into restricting certain types of perfectly legal commerce.

Not much political pressure as much as online smear campaigning by Bill Ackman. And for good reason. The platforms then went overboard and swung the pendulum hard.

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Post by ant_li0n »

makeitdouble wrote: post #280
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

> Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think you should step back and look at it with a bit of distance. Is the content they're paying for really the same as you think is available for free, and do they even get it under the same conditions, in morality and circumstance. Not knowing your life, it feels like you could have said the same towards pe…

> The first step to alleviate these specific situations could be to stop marginalizing this kind of content and give them a regular professional status, instead of systematicly pigeon hole it

I dislike arguments made in this vein, it's sortof a way to intellectually dismiss someone's point without addressing it.

I share the grandparent poster's concern. Parasocial relationships feed us in a certain way, but do not nourish.

Don't get me wrong; I'd rather have OnlyFans than pimps. But that's not the point.

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Post by victorbjorklund »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #181
tessierashpool9 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

same here, i think some people are just a little too submissive and uncritical to the so called rules of society. also engaging in porn or even prostitution isn't really "selling" of one's body.

Leasing, then?

is a selfie leasing your head?

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Post by SecretDreams »

makeitdouble wrote: post #280
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

> Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think you should step back and look at it with a bit of distance. Is the content they're paying for really the same as you think is available for free, and do they even get it under the same conditions, in morality and circumstance. Not knowing your life, it feels like you could have said the same towards pe…

But the OP is right about the parasocial aspect. OF content and other such platforms is about the personalization aspect. Sure, there's some kinks/fetishes too.. but it is primarily about engagement. In some ways, it's just an explicit, subscription based, social media platform where it feels like you're being treated uniquely... But most times you are not.

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Post by paxys »

RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

It's way worse in the case of YouTube/Twitch than OnlyFans IMO. People have been paying for pornography/sex for millennia. It's just part of human nature. On the other hand an 11 year old throwing money at MrBeast...why?

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Post by ath3nd »

medo-bear wrote: post #180
achenet wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> prostitution is still degrading and dangerous for those practicing it, especially for the women; degrading: no. I've met prostitutes who very much like their work and find it empowering dangerous: ...yes, because it's illegal and they don't have access to proper legal protection.

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> It is called delusion

It's, of course, much better and far less delusional, to go flipping burgers for $30k which barely covers your housing, less alone food.

Or to go to the military to lose an arm and a leg, defending a just cause, of course.

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Post by paxys »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #286
paxys wrote: post #281

> The company counted an average of only 42 employees in 2023, down from 61 two years earlier. During the year, it generated $31MM in net revenue per employee (13-28x that of Amazon, Apple, Google, and Microsoft) and $15.5MM in operating profit (27-560x). This is the wildest part. One company that is proving all the "why does need 10000 engineers?" takes true.

It's easy to say this without knowing what is suffering as a result.

What is suffering as a result?

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Post by tjs8rj »

RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

We’re the cohort putting our hand on the stove to remember you get burned.

Vices like gambling, obscenity, prostitution, drugs, etc are banned or heavily controlled societies over because they have significant negative cultural effects. “Why do YOU care what other people do in their private lives?” was always a stupid justification: if everyone in your community is addicted to vices, that DOES affect me.

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