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In what dialect does SpaceX sound exactly like "space sex"? Sounds like a stretch to me.

space ex -> space sex? It's literally one consonant sound away, not a "stretch" in any dialect of English.

“hi” is one consonant sound away from “bye”, but nobody confuses the two words.

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post #217

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> forced to say “space sex” out loud Unless your spoken English isn’t very good, it’s quite clear there is no “s” sound in the second half. Say “space sex” out loud and yes you’ll hear two distinct ‘s’ sounds. Not at all the same as “space ex”.

Dude, "SpaceX" sounds more like "space sex" than it does "sausage". It is literally one IPA consonant sound away. Of course it's not the exact same sound, but it's bloody similar and it's a throwaway tongue-in-cheek comment from GP. Are you and the sibling comment robots that don't get word play?

SpaceX sounds exactly like "space ex". Everything else is dishonest bs.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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> Are you implying that a water pistol is not a "handgun" Yes. If I asked you to bring me a gun (or a handgun) I don't think anyone would argue I might have meant a water pistol. A water pistol is a gun-shaped object, or an object that imitates a gun, but it isn't a gun.

It fits the Webster definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gun If I ask you to bring me a gun, and there is a water gun right next to you and you argue that "I might have meant water pistol" (colloquially: refusing to assess the water gun as a "gun"), I would assume you were ignorant, dishonest, or both.

A water gun is a gun in the same way that a gummy bear is a bear.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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post #174

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(Not the person you were asking, either) In one sentence, wokeness is aggressively pursuing racial (and other identity-based) conflict above everything else, not caring what else you trample on (including even classic civil rights principles). "Microaggressions" is probably the most distinctively woke concept. Censoring gun emojis is not woke in that respect, since it doesn't pursue any particular identity conflict (…

Thanks for taking the time to write this out, I think it helps me understand a bit better. Every definition seems to be sort of different and personalized but I think it's beginning to coalesce into something in my mind, rather than just leaving me confused. Usually when I try to ask this question, I just have angry people being angry with me, and I end up more confused. So it's nice to have some legitimate explanati…

I'm a big fan of the Origin Story podcast, where they dig into words/concepts and look at where they started and how the use has evolved over time. They also cover some things like people, or conspiracy theories.

Their Woke episode might be worth a listen.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ncWO9Aj1kMtQxBsHf0aYg

https://pod.link/1624704966/episode/0b0e2c363a94280fe0ae576b...

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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post #290

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Next up, "semantic sanitation" by AI.- "There. We tweaked your post a bit. More in line with doubleplusgoodthink now".- "There. We tweaked your post a bit. Doubleplusgoodthink now".- "There. You're doubleplusgoodthink now".- "There. Doubleplusgoodthink".- "Doubleplusgood".-

Don’t give them ideas!

You're right.-

(But they do their own doubleplusgoodthink very well, methinks ...)

PS. More seriously, this is a concerning and latent issue. Moderation is a "cost" I am sure they'd like to streamline, and AI scales - as opposed to poor, psychologically "breakable" humans now moderating ...

... so I am sure they'll unavoidably come up with something.-

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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post #229

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I can't speak for everyone, but as far as I'm concerned, the initial change to a water gun was just as stupid and damaging as this one. My point is just that changing it back now is not undoing the damage, it's creating even more damage.

>My point is just that changing it back now is not undoing the damage, it's creating even more damage That's just like, your opinion man! Some of us view it as the Internet healing.

Fresh anonymous accounts?

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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Could the word "gun" be added to the title, so it would come up in HN search for the query "gun emoji", please? Something like

    X redesigns Water Pistol "gun" Emoji back to a firearm
would be ideal.

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BTW, what is the reason this post is currently [flagged]? I almost (re-)posted it myself (since I've sloppily searched for that "gun emoji" instead of the URL what returned zero results for this week), because I find it interesting especially from the technical and "semiotical" point of view. I see it is somewhat political topic as well, it even might be covered on the TV eventually (?), but I think other HN relevant aspects overweight that.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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post #221

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> This seems like approximately the dumbest possible place to have political battles. Isn't the entire purpose of having a standard set of emojis as part of Unicode to enable reliable communication of the concepts and emotions associated with them? Does anyone see what's happened here? A small group of people made a political decision and force changed the pistol emoji into a water gun. Then... later on, someone else…

I can't speak for everyone, but as far as I'm concerned, the initial change to a water gun was just as stupid and damaging as this one. My point is just that changing it back now is not undoing the damage, it's creating even more damage.

I’m my opinion a finger pistol would be appropriate.

Re: X redesigns water pistol emoji back to a firearm

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It fits the Webster definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gun If I ask you to bring me a gun, and there is a water gun right next to you and you argue that "I might have meant water pistol" (colloquially: refusing to assess the water gun as a "gun"), I would assume you were ignorant, dishonest, or both.

A water gun is a gun in the same way that a gummy bear is a bear.

Right on. And if someone made a "bear" emoji as an image of a gummy bear, I wouldn't accuse them of being out of spec. I would just find it personally misleading. Things that might be appropriate to say with a bear emoji might not be appropriate to say with a gummy bear emoji. That could be confusing, and it could be frustrating. But - as the standard emoji convention is often just "use whatever is closest" (see: eggplant/peach) - I don't think there would be any real, practical problem by people using gummy bears as their "bears". So it's perfectly in spec and could easily be a practical solution.

The same is true of the gun emoji. Hard for me to picture a scenario where I would need to communicate "real gun" but not want to say the words "real gun". And given the ubiquitous (until now) change in the icon, I have empirical evidence that it was an entirely practically appropriate solution. And, again, it was no further out of spec than an M1911.

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