Man, I'm conflicted. I mean, Zed works pretty damn well. So far my biggest annoyance with Zed though is that it's constantly trying to download language servers and other tools and run them. And sure, that's handy, but 1. I don't really want it, I'd much rather only use distribution-provided tools. 2. It doesn't work at all on NixOS, so it's just wasting its time and our bandwidth constantly downloading and trying to…
Weird, I just added `zed-editor` to my environment and it's fine. NixOS is listed here: https://zed.dev/docs/linux For me, works as expected.
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#292I gave it a fair try Cons: - spawning nodejs whenever you edit JSON files seems overkill, i'd prefer they use something native and more lightweight, or a way to completely disable it - text still looks a bit blurry on low DPI screens - doesn't support LSP properly, completion items are missing some data - Rust for plugins.. this is painful, compare it to Sublime Text's python API, it's night and day.. Pros: - Fast an…
> I however worry about their business model For me, this is a showstopper. I don't want to use a text editor that even has a business model.
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#293Zed seems like its gotten a lot of buzz on HN, and its great to see new players in the space. For those who have used it, what are some of the killer features?
- fast enough to compete with neovim. Idk if it’s my previous interest in display engineering, but I substantially notice the speed
- vim bindings…. Satisfactory. I don’t struggle to navigate at all, feels pretty native to me. I can split panes every which way till Sunday
- collaboration mode is pretty great
- Ability to have your current pane magnified
- Ability to set your terminal font size to a different font size than your editor (been looking for this for years in a terminal emulator)
- Super clean and crisp ui. TBH it was too much ui when I first tried it, I stopped using it almost immediately. But I have it a second try and got used to it. It’s still a lot more than vim but hey
- Outline mode (pretty sweet)
- Multi-file buffers (makes editing text across multiple files stupidly easy)
- Cracked team. Awesome people, super transparent, just some sick engineers doing sick engineering
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#294What's the business model here?
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sublime Text 3 is still one of my favorite editors. I use VSCode lately because of its excellent "Remote SSH" integration - but when it comes to latency sublime has it beat. Zed does not feel fast on my machine, which is a 13900K/128gb ram. It is running in xwayland though, so that could be part of the problem. It feels identical to vscode.
Sublime Text gang, raise up. I was always a fan of Sublime Text and I moved away from it once because VSC felt more "hassle-free". The extensions just worked, I didn't need to go through endless JSON files to configure things, I even uncluttered its interface but at the end of the day I returned to good old Sublime Text. Now with LSPs it requires way less tinkering with plugins. I only wish it had just a little bit m…
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird, I just added `zed-editor` to my environment and it's fine. NixOS is listed here: https://zed.dev/docs/linux For me, works as expected.
I just tried it on NixOS 24.05. It starts, but nothing happens when I click "Open a project" or Ctrl+O. It's as if it lacks the ability to show a file selection dialog.
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#297I don't see any way to monetize a free text editor but I see that they're hiring and also hired talented devs like Thorsten Ball already. What's the business model here?
We envision Zed as a free-to-use editor, supplemented by subscription-based, optional network features, such as:
Channels and calls Chat Channel notes We plan to allow offer our collaboration features to open source teams, free of charge.
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#299Looks like they're developing their own Apache-licensed GUI framework for this, called GPUI. I think of text handling as one of the trickier parts of building such a framework, so one specifically made to support a text editor would seem to be a pretty good foundation for a general purpose GUI toolkit. I wonder if they (or someone else) will pursue it as an alternative to Qt.
Their toolkit is developed in their monorepo and is not on crates.io nor versionned, so they can do breaking changes any time. Seems risky to use in 3rd party projects.
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#300Sadly I can't run it in WSL. thread 'main' panicked at crates/gpui/src/platform/linux/wayland/client.rs:143:51: called `Result::unwrap()` on an `Err` value: UnsupportedVersion note: run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` environment variable to display a backtrace
Man, what kinda of QA do they have that they miss something like this? WSL can be considered the second largest Linux "distro". Of course, zed has always felt like an osx first project with linux/windows being second class citizen.
Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't even run on Windows...