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Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by wtallis »

fencepost wrote: post #102
wtallis wrote: post #6

Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…

Or if ordering a new PC you can get one with Windows 11 Pro for a few $$ more, choose the option to domain join (during initial setup) to create a local account, and create user accounts with no Microsoft account. Makes it easier to do minor little things like drive encryption as well.

There are a surprising number of laptops where getting Pro edition simply isn't an option. Lots of brands no longer offer detailed build-to-order customization and instead only sell online the same three or four configurations per mdel that retailers stock.

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Post by Kerbonut »

okasaki wrote: post #97
ziddoap wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what to tell you. Friday, 3 days ago, I setup a brand new Windows 11 Home computer. I didn't connect to Wi-Fi, I did OOBE\bypassnro, and I created my local account. Nice and simple. There are other people in this very thread who also had the same experience as me. Sorry it didn't work for you. But it still works.

Maybe you used an old image? I downloaded the latest from Microsoft.

Try it inside quotes. Try the double-quotes around it, supposedly it still works.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by EasyMark »

amanzi wrote: post #50

I'm all for hating on Microsoft for their continued destruction of the local Windows 11 experience, but I actually think this is a good decision. Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account, and assuming you have a OneDrive account, it's a better experience to set up the folder backup feature as early as possible in the set-up process. If you really don't want it, it's easy to undo. I still don't like being f…

It’s better to make it optional. I may have files I don’t want Microsoft sniffing through. It’s great to have a backup as an option. But to just upload “Documents”by complete surprise is pretty dirty. I’m sure it’s buried 20 pages deep in their EULA somewhere though.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by amanzi »

amanzi wrote: post #144
Bilal_io wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Assuming you're logging in with a Microsoft account The whole issue lies within this assumption. Microsoft does not want you to use a local account, and they make it extremely difficult to setup your Windows machine without one.

Yep - I agree with that. I set up a Windows 11 machine recently and was still able to create a local account. I'm sure there will be ways to defeat the new requirement. I haven't tried this, but even if they forced a Microsoft account during set up, couldn't you just create a local admin account once logged in, then log in with that account and delete the first profile?

Replying to myself - I just tried this and it works as expected. After initial set-up with a Microsoft account, you can create a local account and log in with that instead (and also delete the first Microsoft account too).

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

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Post by gigel82 »

okasaki wrote: post #48

I recently reinstalled Windows Home. It's not possible to install a local account any more. Apparently all the loopholes have been closed. It just loops you back to the "oops looks like you lost internet access" page. I made a new account - installer @outlook.com with no@thankyou.com as the backup email (which you have to give). Microsoft didn't like that, so it made me go through 10 minutes of captchas (captcas in t…

> Then later I check my real name gmail account and there's a Microsoft email with a login code. I never gave MS this email address. What the hell??

I was with you until that part - everything else seemed plausible and likely true. This one is a lie, I don't know why you felt the need to include it.

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Post by Aeglaecia »

ziddoap wrote: post #92
okasaki wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's several people saying it doesn't work any more: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/window... It tried it, it didn't work. I even disabled wifi in bios.

I'm not sure what to tell you. Friday, 3 days ago, I setup a brand new Windows 11 Home computer. I didn't connect to Wi-Fi, I did OOBE\bypassnro, and I created my local account. Nice and simple. There are other people in this very thread who also had the same experience as me. Sorry it didn't work for you. But it still works.

having performed the oobe bypass , it has not been possible on machines by some vendors , while continuing to work on others ... on a side note it seems hypocritical to use anecdotal evidence while denying others the opportunity ...

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Post by ziddoap »

Aeglaecia wrote: post #296
ziddoap wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what to tell you. Friday, 3 days ago, I setup a brand new Windows 11 Home computer. I didn't connect to Wi-Fi, I did OOBE\bypassnro, and I created my local account. Nice and simple. There are other people in this very thread who also had the same experience as me. Sorry it didn't work for you. But it still works.

having performed the oobe bypass , it has not been possible on machines by some vendors , while continuing to work on others ... on a side note it seems hypocritical to use anecdotal evidence while denying others the opportunity ...

>use anecdotal evidence while denying others the opportunity ...

They said "It's not possible to install a local account any more.".

I'm sure you can understand why my own memories of just recently doing the apparently impossible thing will hold more weight -- to me at least -- than a comment saying the thing I just did is impossible.

That might not be super convincing to an outside reader, but for me the alternative is to conclude that I'm having a multi-day hallucination.

It'd be hard for me to pretend like the anecdotal evidence is equal in this situation.

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Post by ranger_danger »

tripflag wrote: post #59
ranger_danger wrote: post #23

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didn't work for me on 24H2 /shrug

it worked for me on win11pro 24h2 just a few days ago; maybe you had a lan cable connected?

for you it was probably because it's pro... others have stated pro and above still let you go without an MS account.

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Post by ranger_danger »

o11c wrote: post #167
Syonyk wrote: post #24

I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while. But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?" For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an…

> figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is Never attribute to stupidity what can better be explained by malice. Hanlon's razor hangs a lot of weight on that "adequately". We know how valuable bulk data collection is, so why would Microsoft ever not mine it?

you got it the other way round there, stupid :p

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Post by ranger_danger »

ethagnawl wrote: post #268
amluto wrote: post #179

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Maybe write to the FTC? This is a privacy violation. It’s also arguably anticompetitive— they’re auto-enrolling you in an MS product you didn’t want to use, and this comes at the expense of either just local use or of any competing system. IMO this is also something that the US should shut down hard for a very different reason: every time anyone complains about a vendor, usually Chinese, misusing American data, the U…

I'm sure anyone using Windows implicitly agreed to this "feature" via EULA but it sounds to me like data theft and something state attorneys general might want to start looking into. It stinks whichever way you approach it.

EULA's are quite often unenforceable though, and it didn't save them from the IE browser monopoly in the EU.
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