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Re: "No way to prevent this" say users of only language where this regularly happens

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #260
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #248

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Switzerland has very high rates of fun ownership, but their laws are far from lax. They are much stricter than the US. You need a permit to buy anything other than a hunting rifle. You can't buy a gun if you have been convicted of a crime, have an alcohol or drug addiction or express a dangerous attitude. You generally can't carry a gun except when going to and from hunting or a shooting range and you can't have the…

> You need a permit to buy anything other than a hunting rifle. You can't buy a gun if you have been convicted of a crime, have an alcohol or drug addiction or express a dangerous attitude. ...as opposed to the US? Do you think you can just buy a machine gun over the counter without any checks in the states?

You don't need a permit to buy a handgun (i.e. the ones used for nearly all of the crimes) in the US to my knowledge.

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #291
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #260

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> You need a permit to buy anything other than a hunting rifle. You can't buy a gun if you have been convicted of a crime, have an alcohol or drug addiction or express a dangerous attitude. ...as opposed to the US? Do you think you can just buy a machine gun over the counter without any checks in the states?

You don't need a permit to buy a handgun (i.e. the ones used for nearly all of the crimes) in the US to my knowledge.

You don't need a permit to buy a gun, depending on the state, but you do need to pass a background check, show an ID, and if you wish to carry it outside your house, you probably need a permit, again depending on the state and whether you wish to conceal or open carry.

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Post by l33t7332273 »

p_l wrote: post #130
Xeamek wrote: post #57

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>What projects need manual memory management Games. Big/specialiased games to be precise, as for smaller projects managed language offer good enough performance.

In practice I found C/C++ "manual memory management" fans to know surprisingly little about memory management, or even how much manual memory management costs them in performance. High end games programming sometimes knocks the love of malloc()/free() (and naive RAII) out of them.

What does knowing a lot about memory management look like? Is it like being familiar with heap allocation, the structure of fastbins and co., and some knowledge of lifetime and ownership?

Re: "No way to prevent this" say users of only language where this regularly happens

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #292
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a permit to buy a handgun (i.e. the ones used for nearly all of the crimes) in the US to my knowledge.

You don't need a permit to buy a gun, depending on the state, but you do need to pass a background check, show an ID, and if you wish to carry it outside your house, you probably need a permit, again depending on the state and whether you wish to conceal or open carry.

37 out of 50 states do not require a permit for open carry.

30 out of 50 states allow purchasing a gun from a private seller without a background check.

There is simply no basis for the claim that US and Swiss gun laws are comparable.

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Post by l33t7332273 »

nottorp wrote: post #215
pdimitar wrote: post #193

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I don't need a 100% drop-in. Barely anyone does. I've observed at least 80% of all of the coreutils features are not used by 90% - 99% of programmers and sysadmins. Ask people if they used all flags of `sort` and report back results as a test of my hypothesis. > The right questions according to who? This is tiring. I told you twice that I'd prefer you engaging in technical merits. You keep drawing attention to what i…

But the only "technical merit" seems to be "omg it's more secure". I've literally never seen any other argument in favor of Rust.

Is security not a technical merit?

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Post by KaiserPro »

xena wrote: post #55
darkwater wrote: post #46

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Why? Furries are NSFW because they look cartoonish and "unprofessional"? I don't like them but what a boring workplace would that be.

They're being satirical. People usually berate my posts because I have cartoon characters for Socratic exchanges to teach people things like Kubernetes, claiming that is "unprofessional" or something. These people are sarcastically berating my post for NOT using that Socratic system.

No No No, I genuinely love both your Socratic exchanges and the furries characters that illustrate them. (although this is article is firmly Aristophanes, again, top notch work)

I don't hold with the "I'm not going to open a link on HN from Xe at work" bollocks, because I know its going to be a gem, moreover, I'm not a fucking prude.

If one can, at work, open the daily mail, "listen" to music videos, or read celeb gossip sites at work, then you can 100% look at computer using anthropomorphic animals.

Plus ever since I read your article about abusing S3 into a message queue, I've started using 18th century engravings of gargoyles, statues and classic sculpture to aid my presentations.

In summary, I love you work, I wish you to continue making it, and please don't take my comment as sarcastic. As I said before many months ago, this is what the internet was designed for, long may it continue.

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Post by KaiserPro »

Zecc wrote: post #128
llm_trw wrote: post #93

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It's gross because I don't want to think about your sex life when at work, but I guess this type of exhibitionism is fine.

Why did you jump from 'cartoon characters having Socratic conversations' to 'sex life'? Good grief.

Yeah, that's a leap I'm struggling to make. They are not in a sexual setting, moreover they are not doing anything sexual.

Its basically clifford using a computer.

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Post by KaiserPro »

subjectsigma wrote: post #233
Zecc wrote: post #128

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Why did you jump from 'cartoon characters having Socratic conversations' to 'sex life'? Good grief.

Being a furry is and always has been a sex thing for the majority of the fandom. Some furries will vehemently deny this but we have receipts going all the way back to the 1970’s: https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Vootie Anime is not inherently sexual as a medium but has a well-deserved reputation for being associated with creeps and perverts. Don’t talk about either in professional settings.

> Being a furry is and always has been a sex thing

I mean you could argue that about Emos, or Goths. Its not really true.

I'm sure sex is a large motivator, but you can't be doing sex all the time. When a Goth is dressed up all Goth-y its not because they are horny right now. They are just wanting to look good.

I imagine its the same with the furries, but the difference is, the furries are the butt of most jokes

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Post by jstimpfle »

pdimitar wrote: post #222
nottorp wrote: post #217

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In Europe (esp Eastern), if you take resale price into account you have to get a german car because everything else loses value faster :) The VWs you can just dump on the fans. I know, I live in a similar country.

The point is that the guy who was bombarded by feedback that VW Golf is good did not go out of his way to avoid buying it. He did his own research, formed his own informed opinion, and didn't go against the grain due to misguided notions. Wink wink.

You are bombarded by feedback too, such that these endless discussions are just tiring and mentally exhausting, and improving a language by overfocusing on security is just a massive waste of time. (In some areas, it could make the difference between economic viability or not, or between possibility of explorative prototyping and mental exhaustion from friction during development).

I am assuming that you did your own research, formed your own informed opinion, and ignored the feedback nevertheless because you know who is right :-)

Re: "No way to prevent this" say users of only language where this regularly happens

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Post by pdimitar »

jstimpfle wrote: post #299
pdimitar wrote: post #222

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The point is that the guy who was bombarded by feedback that VW Golf is good did not go out of his way to avoid buying it. He did his own research, formed his own informed opinion, and didn't go against the grain due to misguided notions. Wink wink.

You are bombarded by feedback too, such that these endless discussions are just tiring and mentally exhausting, and improving a language by overfocusing on security is just a massive waste of time. (In some areas, it could make the difference between economic viability or not, or between possibility of explorative prototyping and mental exhaustion from friction during development). I am assuming that you did your own…

As a diligent programmer I research my tools and make my own conclusions when they are good and when they are inappropriate for the task at hand. Like everybody else should.

I don't even use Rust for a while now, by the way, because its lower speed of iteration was an ill fit for my contracting work. I love what it's doing but it is not a silver bullet (but then again, what is?).

...and by the way, mental exhaustion is pretty much a given if you are a pro. That's one of the reasons we are paid gobs of money.

As for the "feedback" you are alluding to, it's more like people throwing feces at me but feel free to disagree. None of them have addressed my questions except maybe one. They all rushed into snark just like you did. Even 1000 such comments are not interesting or informed feedback and can't advance any discussion.

I am still here and still open to discuss... with the people who bother to discuss.

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