The 256gb and 512gb models have 8gb of ram. The 1tb and 2tb models have 16gb. Not a fan of tying ram to storage. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/
> 8gb of ram not again
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Apple introduces M4 chip
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are referring to integrated npus in current cpus like in the intel cote ultra. They explicitly mentioned in the event that the industry refers to the neural engine as a NPU
But the word they used isn't "NPU" or "neural engine" but "AI PC"??? If I build a PC with a ton of GPU power with the intention of using that compute for machine learning then that's an "AI PC"
The technicality they're operating on is that the "AI PC" doesn't have a "neural processing unit."
> faster than the neural processing unit of any AI PC today.
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#293"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…
Actually, TSMC's N3E process is somewhat of a regression on the first-generation 3nm process, N3. However, it is simpler and more cost-efficient, and everyone seems to want to get out of that N3 process as quickly as possible. That seems to be the biggest reason Apple released the A17(M3) generation and now the M4 the way they did. The N3 process is in the A17 Pro, the M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max. The A17 Pro name seems t…
N3E still has a +9% logic transistor density increase on N3 despite a relaxation to design rules, for reasons such as introduction of FinFlex.[1] Critically though, SRAM cell sizes remain the same as N5 (reversing the ~5% reduction in N3), and it looks like the situation with SRAM cell sizes won't be improving soon.[2][3] It appears more likely that designers particularly for AI chips will just stick with N5 as their designs are increasingly constrained by SRAM.
[1] https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-manufacturers/tsmc/322688...
[2] https://semiengineering.com/sram-scaling-issues-and-what-com...
[3] https://semiengineering.com/sram-in-ai-the-future-of-memory/
Re: Apple introduces M4 chip
#294Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…
> I always say I want AI to work offline
I'm with you, I'm most excited about this too.
Currently building an AI creative studio (make stories, art, music, videos, etc.) that runs locally/offline (https://github.com/bennyschmidt/ragdoll-studio). There is a lot of focus on cloud with LLMs but I can't see how the cost will make much sense for involved creative apps like video creation, etc. Present day users might not have high-end machines, but I think they all will pretty soon - this will make them buy them the way MMORPGs made everyone buy more RAM. Especially the artists and creators. Remember, Photoshop was once pretty difficult to run, you needed a great machine.
I can imagine offline music/movies apps, offline search engines, back office software, etc.
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#295> M4 has Apple’s fastest Neural Engine ever, capable of up to 38 trillion operations per second, which is faster than the neural processing unit of any AI PC today. I always wonder what crazy meds Apple employees are on. Two RTX 4090s is quite common for hobbyist use, and that is 1321 TOPS each, making two over 69 times more than what Apple claims to be the fastest in the world. That performance is literally less tha…
They are referring to integrated npus in current cpus like in the intel cote ultra. They explicitly mentioned in the event that the industry refers to the neural engine as a NPU
The text clearly states faster than any AI PC, not that its faster than any NPUs integrated into a CPU.
They could have written it correctly, but that sounds way less impressive, so instead they make up shit to make it sound very impressive.
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#296I'm still rocking an iPad 6th generation. It's a video consumption device only. A faster CPU doesn't enable any new use cases. The only reason is the consumer's desire to buy more.
New oled does look like quite a nice display though...
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using the iPad Mini for years. I'd love to see them add something to that form factor. I do see a lot of iPad Minis out there, but usually, as part of dedicated systems (like PoS, and restaurant systems). On the other hand, I have heard rumblings that Apple may release an even bigger phone, which I think might be overkill (but what do I know. I see a lot of those monster Samsung beasts, out there). Not sure…
I wanted to buy a Mini, but they had not updated the processors for them when I was buying, and they cost way more than a regular iPad at the time, I wanted to be budget conscious. I still sometimes regret not just going for the Mini, but I know eventually I'll get one sooner or later. You know whats even funnier, when the mini came out originally, I made fun of it. I thought it was a dumb concept, oh my ignorance.
I have access to multiple iPad sizes and I personally only use the mini. Is almost perfect. Last year of its long life cycle you start to feel the age of the processor but still better than holding the larger devices. Can’t wait for it to be updated again.
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#299"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…
Apple usually massively exaggerates their tech spec comparison - is it REALLY half the power use of all times (so we'll get double the battery life) or is it half the power use in some scenarios (so we'll get like... 15% more battery life total) ?
Apple might use simplified and opaque plots to drive their point, but they all too often undersell the differences. Indepedent reviews for example find that they not just hit the mark Apple mentions for things like battery but that often do slightly better...
Re: Apple introduces M4 chip
#300Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…
You can’t have all that power in a 7” tablet because the battery will last half hour.
Well, maybe. The screen (and specifically the backlight) is a big drain. Smaller screen = less drain.