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Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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FWIW Teslas infotainment works better than CarPlay

If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the display (or part of it) as a second monitor.

My theory is that Tesla want to strongly encourage people to use the in-built navigation that works very hard to ensure you don't run out of charge.

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Doesn't Tesla do that as well?

No, Tesla sells internet connectivity for $10/month.

While Tesla does have a $10/m plan, you still get basic Internet without paying for it... Tesla's free is better than any other company's paid subscription.

That said, $10 is far too much for what it is, should be $5.

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GM's plan is to sell a subscription service that covers all the things you already pay for on your phone (maps, music streaming, etc). It's why they're killing CarPlay, because they know that even if their service is good, nobody will pay $20/mo for shit they already get for free on their phones. Basically, their goal in life is to be a worthless middleman who takes peoples money while providing no real value to soci…

How is GM a middleman when they are producing the product I am buying which is a car? If GM bundled OnStar with a top tier infotainment / navigation / ChatGpt / I’m hungry where do I eat app, I’ll pay for that as long as it’s reasonable and lets me know I’ll be taken care of if I crash and need assistance.

They are trying to be a middleman between you and the internet.

It’s analogous to a TV and monitor manufacturer saying they are no longer providing non-wifi inputs, app side loading, or supporting screen casting from local devices.

Then the manufacturer would charge a monthly fee for the monitor to keep working.

Hopefully, next, the CEO acts surprised when reporting the resulting massive drop in shipments.

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Maybe for you. If it doesn't exactly mirror the stuff on my phone, though, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. If it doesn't start playing music from my phone when I turn the car on, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. If it doesn't act like my phone does today , it's distinctly worse than using my phone. For me, there is no room for GM to become a player here. I have friends' addresses, etc. in my iPho…

I would never consider buying GM. I was, in the past, a UAW shop steward.

I once bought a GM vehicle. Never again.

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If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the display (or part of it) as a second monitor.

My theory is that Tesla want to strongly encourage people to use the in-built navigation that works very hard to ensure you don't run out of charge.

Or because they want to charge a subscription for "premium data" which nobody would buy if there was CarPlay.

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Yea but that's the joke is they plan. Toyota should also plan to expand their manufacturing capacity to pickup GMs lost sales to anyone under the age of 60. Lol

Toyota offering a V8 (both gas and diesel) in its trucks would change the market in a big way.

I’m surprised Toyota doesn’t offer a hybrid pickup similar to Ford’s.

I wish any manufacturer offered a 250-class electric truck with a basic trim line. They probably want to sell more cars per battery for now.

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>In the end, consumers don't give a shit about the in-vehicle infotainment. It sucks, or it's AA/CarPlay. My ideal "infotainment" is a button that lets me pair bluetooth and volume/skip controls on my steering wheel. I have a phone mount, like almost everyone does. I don't need a display on my dashboard. AA/CarPlay (and everything else) are genuinely just distracting annoyances that take up space. Especially in newer…

Likewise. I vastly prefer the physical buttons, as I can hit them without taking my eyes off the road. The only two things I use infotainment for is mapping and music control.

Bluetooth should let you select phone audio sources from your car buttons.

It’s usually terribly implemented. iOS doesn’t support it for third party apps or first party podcasts, and apple music’s support is a shit show. Android is better, but it is hit-or-miss depending on the car.

I wish the government would declare this a safety feature and mandate recalls for incorrect implementations (including phones and cars).

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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It’s amusing when the author says “when the phone crashes.” My 2022 Subaru Outback head unit frequently crashes or is really unresponsive. My iPhone never crashes. Car infotainment systems are garbage. I’d never buy a car without CarPlay. It’s maybe the #1 measure I have for vehicle quality when I rent on vacation.

My infotainment unit is pretty unreliable. Sometimes I have to play music or use my map from the phone speakers because the cars unit just goes black and won’t reboot

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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It’s amusing when the author says “when the phone crashes.” My 2022 Subaru Outback head unit frequently crashes or is really unresponsive. My iPhone never crashes. Car infotainment systems are garbage. I’d never buy a car without CarPlay. It’s maybe the #1 measure I have for vehicle quality when I rent on vacation.

Fell for the Crosstrek but then got the ick with that dash tablet
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