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Post by potatolicious »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #233

>And we encourage the Google Play 2D app store to come to Meta Horizon OS, where it can operate with the same economic model it does on other platforms. Did they get told to shove it by Google when they asked through back channels? To even come out and essentially say publicly "they can still get their 30% cut" is just wild to me. Also of note, they don't mention any license. Is the hope they can avoid the Google ant…

I'd speculate the two things have a lot to do with each other. It's easier to avoid accusations of monopolizing software distribution on a platform when you've openly invited other parties to participate.

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Post by drdaeman »

PaulHoule wrote: post #265
drdaeman wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typically frames are made very light, so they won't make too much pressure on one's ears and nose. Unless someone runs a fiber to a frame, then keep the rest in a backpack or belt bag or something, I doubt it's physically possible to pack all the necessary additional hardware keeping it nearly indistinguishable from a frame without it.

That CPU or battery puck for Apple Vision Pro, Magic Leap, and some others is a real killjoy. It makes it certain you won't be using fitness apps.

I'm skeptical about working out with a headset, at all. There are probably some good use cases, but I'm just mentally going through the stuff I'm doing at a gym, and I think that typically a headset would be either a hazard or a gimmick of questionable usefulness.

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Post by inopinatus »

OJFord wrote: post #21
EVyesnoyesnoyes wrote: post #14

I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life skills you can actually train reasonable good: - cooking - soldering - welding - Tons of woodworking things - ... You could also go to a lot of makers of tools and offer them to digitalize their products for them so someone can actually exercise with a cheap to su…

Where would that fit in between watching others do it on YouTube for entertainment, and doing it for real where you can hold (or eat) the result at the end?

That would be Ender's Game. Please don't eat the egg, though.

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Post by wvenable »

woopsn wrote: post #109

I know I'm fighting the overwhelming tide here, but what the hell is "mixed reality"? What is "the metaverse"? For that matter what is "artificial intelligence"? Stop trying to dazzle and just use words, if the technology is revolutionary then it will be. An automobile is not the magic carpet, a cell phone is not a soulmate, etc. Otherwise fuck it -- TV is virtual reality, getting high augmented reality, TI-84 calcul…

What the hell is "cloud computing"? What is "big data"? What is the "Internet of Things" or "SaaS" or "SEO"? For that matter what is "agile development"?

Just use words to describe technology? Every time I want to say "cloud computing" do I have to say "a service where you use the internet to access software, storage, and processing power that's run on a bunch of server located far away in data center that are owned and managed by a company that specializes in providing these services" instead?

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Post by crowcroft »

throw310822 wrote: post #177
AzzyHN wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a personal computer at home was a game-changer, though. "The Metaverse" has been around for a couple years now, and yet consumer VR (which has been around for eight years now) is still just a "gimmick", rather than a must-have. The IBM Personal Computer released in 1981. By 1989... yeah. iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world.

> iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world. Advanced phones with proper os, apps, camera had been around for years, and personal digital assistants before that. Tablets, too. iPhone got the form factor and ui exactly right and triggered an explosion, but it was far from the first. We might still be in the "smartphone, pre-iPhone" years.

I don't know what exactly is the right analogy for this, but two other points of context which make me discredit this line of thinking.

1. Feature/smart 'Phones' were around before the iPhone *and* were already pretty much ubiquitous. VR headsets don't do much but sit on shelfs (either in people's houses or in distribution centres not being sold).

2. VR has arguably existed in some ways before the Quest, Nintendo Virtual Boy was from the mid-90s.

Maybe the iPhone comparison isn't right, but if we're decades into developing this technology and still very early in development I think we should assume we're a LONG way off these things becoming mainstream consumer devices and we should be wary of any company that brings them to the consumer market.

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Post by traek »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #233

>And we encourage the Google Play 2D app store to come to Meta Horizon OS, where it can operate with the same economic model it does on other platforms. Did they get told to shove it by Google when they asked through back channels? To even come out and essentially say publicly "they can still get their 30% cut" is just wild to me. Also of note, they don't mention any license. Is the hope they can avoid the Google ant…

Google asked Meta to switch to AndroidXR for their Quest devices. Meta said no and suggested Google offer Play Store on Quest, which Google rejected.

Google then went on a PR offensive accusing Meta of fragmenting the VR/AR ecosystem.

Meta is including this in the announcement to head off criticism by Google aimed at creating pressure on Meta to consolidate on AndroidXR.

https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-google-android-xr-quest-reject...

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Post by rvba »

AzzyHN wrote: post #155
romanhn wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing it's the opposite. Meta is trying to establish the same OS-level foothold/control that Microsoft, Apple and Google have.

Having a personal computer at home was a game-changer, though. "The Metaverse" has been around for a couple years now, and yet consumer VR (which has been around for eight years now) is still just a "gimmick", rather than a must-have. The IBM Personal Computer released in 1981. By 1989... yeah. iPhone came out in 2007. By 2015, smartphones ruled the world.

IMHO when you talk about PCs "becoming the big thing" - it is more Windows 95 time.

In 1989 market was still fragmented and PCs were weak (286, amiga, mac + old 8bits like atari and commodore).

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