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Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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The link should probably be changed to official announcement.[1] That said, this is pretty dismaying. I've been using Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo for years. Their standalone and non-subscription based apps are perfect for my usecase. Compared to Adobe, they are a no-brainer. But, I don't think Canva would leave them be as is. Either next versions will be a subscription or a rug pull is coming for the existin…

of course. big corporations only think about profit. affinity as we know it are dead.

If they want to compete with adobe the have to put in some work

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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They don’t need to do that. First, Adobe doesn’t see Affinity as meaningful competition. Adobe sees Figma and Canva (and Blackmagic and Avid in the NLE space) as competition, but a company doing £30m a year in revenue is barely a blip on their radar (Adobe did nearly $20b in revenue in FY23). Second, for the lowend market that Affinity serves, Adobe Express (its Canva compete) and Photoshop Express ($35 a year) are g…

You have a point. I guess Adobe lowering the subscription prices is probably more wishful thinking on my part ;)

I def wish they would too! Alas.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Yes, and let me explain why. Subscriptions are significantly better for a company. They result in a steady income and a predictable growth curve. It's so much easier to plan the upcoming years if you can predict the income. While we all focus on the latest news, the leaders of those companies already planned their next 10 steps ahead, even taking into account our sentiment towards them. Remember that they aim to maxi…

I feel like they could have a sustainable model if they had a more expensive one-time purchase and every few years released a new major version that required a one-time purchase again. If you bought the old version you can continue to use it, but it's no longer officially supported nor will it receive any future updates. I wish there was an option for this with e.g. Photoshop. I want to have PS because it's occasiona…

> I feel like they could have a sustainable model if they had a more expensive one-time purchase and every few years released a new major version that required a one-time purchase again.

And people complain about this also. If everyone is going to complain anyway, they might as well go to subscription which is best for the business.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Yes, and let me explain why. Subscriptions are significantly better for a company. They result in a steady income and a predictable growth curve. It's so much easier to plan the upcoming years if you can predict the income. While we all focus on the latest news, the leaders of those companies already planned their next 10 steps ahead, even taking into account our sentiment towards them. Remember that they aim to maxi…

What this means is that OSS offerings will eventually get good enough and eat their lunch, permanently.

Yes exactly. See Firefox, Gimp, and Ubuntu's superiority over other offerings.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Telling their students to avoid locking down their works inside a subscription-based service is good imo.

It's good advice sure. But downgrading their work, no. Unless you have explicit requirements that aren't met like your text being selectable, downgrading work because you have a prejudice against an authoring tool isn't cool. What if another educator has an issue with Power Point, and another with Sheets. Should students have to match their authoring tool with their educators for each lesson? Students are there to le…

School is about learning to give information in the format requested. When you reach the real world these lessons are the important ones.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Oh boy. I willingly gave my money to Affinity because I don’t want a subscription model, I don’t want my creative apps to rely on the cloud _at all_ to work _and_ I want native Mac apps. I am not reassured by their FAQ at all. I suspect a year from now Canva will break at least one (if not all three) of these features and force me to leave Affinity by version 3. It would be extremely ironic if Gimp was the only graph…

I already started to worry about Affinity's strategy when they introduced online activation in version 2 of their software. I really appreciated the offline activation in the original versions - it means I will forever own Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher 1 on my NAS, no matter what they decide to do in the future.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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Apparently most of the market doesn’t want the same things you want. Otherwise Affinity would be the giant acquiring a much smaller Canva team. That said, this is also further proof of why the standalone software license model died. If Affinity had a great business of their own, they wouldn’t need to sell. Turns out if you want a software team to continue providing value to you, you should probably put them on salary…

> If Affinity had a great business of their own, they wouldn’t need to sell. They don't need to. They mentioned that in their FAQ: > We have to say that selling Serif was not on our minds at all, but when Canva contacted us (only a couple of months ago!) there was something about it which just felt right.

Riiight. They had a fantastically enjoyable and profitable business going for themselves...but they decided they'd rather give up all control and sell their baby to a much larger corporate entity, give up the future upside from any growth, and play office politics instead of control their own destiny.

...because it just "felt right."

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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It's good advice sure. But downgrading their work, no. Unless you have explicit requirements that aren't met like your text being selectable, downgrading work because you have a prejudice against an authoring tool isn't cool. What if another educator has an issue with Power Point, and another with Sheets. Should students have to match their authoring tool with their educators for each lesson? Students are there to le…

School is about learning to give information in the format requested. When you reach the real world these lessons are the important ones.

What you're saying makes sense... if the OP explicitly tells the students to make their work available in a shareable and copyable format. The vast majority of presentations in schools don't live beyond the moment the presentation is finished.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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I feel like they could have a sustainable model if they had a more expensive one-time purchase and every few years released a new major version that required a one-time purchase again. If you bought the old version you can continue to use it, but it's no longer officially supported nor will it receive any future updates. I wish there was an option for this with e.g. Photoshop. I want to have PS because it's occasiona…

> I feel like they could have a sustainable model if they had a more expensive one-time purchase and every few years released a new major version that required a one-time purchase again. And people complain about this also. If everyone is going to complain anyway, they might as well go to subscription which is best for the business.

Do they? It's not super common, but I can think of the JetBrains IDEs that I believe let you continue to use the last version of the IDE before you stopped paying. Alfred, the Spotlight alternative for Mac does something like that, and you get a discount code if you own the last version.

Both beloved pieces of software.

Re: Canva has acquired Affinity in an effort to compete with Adobe

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> The software itself is a lot better than Adobe in many fundamentals. It’s faster, crashes less, supports a lot more file formats, connection between the individual programs is perfect, they add new quite innovative features at constant pace. I disagree with all your points. I've been using Adobe for 20 years and Affinity Design and Photo since they released in 2013 or so. Adobe apps are faster on Apple Silicon than…

> I haven't experienced a crash in years with Adobe Haha wow. I find this incredibly hard to believe (also Apple Silicon). You ought to play the Lotto. > Design is still missing a lot from Illustrator. "A lot" is drastically overstating the case. And in many ways Designer is leagues better. But it's all kinda moot - fuck Adobe. Fuck their dark patterns, fuck their bugs, fuck their pricing, fuck their monopoly.

I was a photographer until late last year and there were many weeks I spent 40 hours+ in Photoshop and I don’t remember a single crash.

I’m on Windows, for what it’s worth.

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