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"I hate to say this." Then don't say it.

> Then don't say it.

Some things need to be said. Some people need to do a better job. I hate saying it because I want America & it's founding principles to succeed. Boeing's performance & response to accountability is bad.

China's methods are effective at stopping corruption dead. Their managerial class seems to understand the stakes of public safety. They don't mess around. They had to deal with corruption & it's destabilizing effects on many levels throughout their system.

In the American system, it's worse if nobody talks about corruption. It's clear that the western managerial class has become powerful. Some in the managerial class has no interest in self-regulation. Nor will these people work to benefit the public. What happens when these people harm the public? Like what has happened over & over the past century.

As long as there are no real consequences, this behavior will only be more bold & egregious. Like how a spoiled child takes advantage of parents. I would love to be proven wrong & am completely open to good faith efforts to correct these problems.

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I'm not saying that Boeing had him assassinated, but I sure wouldn't put it past them. They've already shown themselves to be perfectly willing to sacrifice human lives for increased profits.

It doesn't even have to be Boeing. It's possible that a government agency could do it as well. For example, suppose Boeing is seen by the government as a national entity, it's possible for a government agency such as CIA to do the assignation if they think he puts the country in an unfavorable position. But I think it's more likely that a shareholder/high stakes person connected to Boeing might want to do it. There i…

There is no way Boeing, the company, would disparage the long-earned reputation in order to save some money and with the risk of people dying.

-- would have said someone a few years ago

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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> from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. How did you overcome this?

Humanity has had people who did not care about doing the right thing since forever, and still we thrived. As long as someone is doing the right thing, we're on the right track. Relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScpHTIi-kM

It helps to give power to people who care about doing the right thing, instead of to people who don't care. Democracy tends towards the former, but capitalism tends towards the latter.

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737 Max whistleblowers should take notice though.

Whistleblowers should be in no way influenced by current events. Information wants to be free and that will never change.

They still could decide to be more careful.

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The probable with quitting is that you can’t change the company from within anymore.

The idea that an employee can change a company from within is fantastical thinking.

It depends on your position and on the company. There are situations where you can have impact, in which case you should definitely use that. There have been plenty of cases where employees did seriously change corporate policies, but that's usually either in small companies or in companies where employees band together. And often the only impact you can have is to quit and take your skills to a more responsible company.

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+1 for quitting. This can be life saving. Finding new purpose then becomes possible.

The probable with quitting is that you can’t change the company from within anymore.

I've found (in <200~ employee companies) well structured exit interviews to be the best way to change a company from within. What better way to express your disapproval than by severing ties?

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The emotional strain of being a whistleblower and having your colleagues now see you as the enemy is not something I’ve read about, but it must take a toll. A whistleblower, almost by definition, is a hero to strangers and a villain to those they know and work with. Or he was simply executed like in many corporate espionage movies.

Don't know anything about this guy, so just speculating, but I can easily see having a self-destructing behaviour being correlated with becoming a whistleblower since it is usually done at great personal expenses.

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I always check whether my flight is on a Boeing and tend to avoid them—better safe than sorry! Fortunately, in Europe, most carriers primarily use Airbus, which simplifies things. Essentially, it boils down to avoiding Ryanair, and there are plenty of other good reasons for avoiding Ryanair.

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How about "Ex-Boeing Employee Who Reported Safety Issues in 2019 at South Carolina Facility Dies by Apparent Suicide in the middle of formal deposition which started last week"

That sounds like he died while in the court room while giving testimony.

Right, it sounds like they were in the court room since a week and the guy couldn't take it anymore.

"Ex-Boeing Employee Who Reported Safety Issues in 2019 at South Carolina Facility Dies by Apparent Suicide just before his court appearance on Saturday"

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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"Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing but I'm immediately skeptical. EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. archive.is has the original. https://archive.is/wj0LE

Imagine something similar happened in Russia :)
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