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Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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> Of course the politically sensitive people are waging war over it. Just like politically sensitive people waged war over Google identifying an obscured person as a Gorilla. Its just a silly mistake, how could anyone get upset over that?

It's not a silly mistake. It was rlhf'd to do this intentionally. When the results are more extremist than the unfiltered model, it's no longer a 'small mistake'

rlhf: Reinforcement learning from human feedback

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Here's the problem for Google: Gemini pukes out a perfect visual representation of actual systemic racism that pervades throughout modern corporate culture in the US. Daily interactions can be masked by platitudes and dog whistles. A poster of non-white celtic warriors cannot. Gemini refused to create an image of "a nice white man", saying it was "too spicy", but had no problem when asked for an image of "a nice blac…

It's so stubborn it generated pictures of diverse Nazis, and that's what I saw a liberal rag leading with. In fact it is almost impossible to get a picture of a white person out of it.

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> The sensible alternative explanation is that this issue is an overcorrection made in an attempt to address well-documented biases these models have when not fine tuned. That is what all these people are arguing, so you agree with them here. If people didn't complain then this wouldn't get fixed.

There are some people who are arguing this point, with whom I agree. There are others who are arguing that this is indicative of some objectionable ideological stance held by Google that genuinely views generating images of white people as divisive.

> stance held by Google that genuinely views generating images of white people as divisive.

There’s no argument here, it literally says this is the reason when asked

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Western countries should have paid more attetion on social media as a means of information warfare. It has been so easy for actors from Russia and China to polarize the political landscape. Both Trump supporters and the woke left are just useful idiots implementing their plans. In EU we similarly have both anti-EU "nationalists" and lefties who oppose nuclear and call for open borders, both groups most definitely wor…

We’re only allowed to acknowledge foreign influence on the right, even suggesting the left is also susceptible is highly verboten.

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Since this is coming from the cesspool of disinformation that is Twitter[0], no idea if this is real, but apparently someone convinced Gemini to explain how it modified the prompt: Here's a breakdown of what happens technically when you request images and I aim for more diverse representations: 1. Your Original Prompt: Your initial input was "Please draw a portrait of leprechauns". This is what you see and the starti…

AI models do not have access to their own design, so asking them what technical choices led to their behavior gets you responses that are entirely hallucinated.

It depends, ChatGPT had a prompt that was pre-inserted by OpenAI that primed it for user input. A couple of weeks ago someone convinced it to print out the system prompt.

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Honestly, I'm baffled by the American keywordism and obsession with images. They seem to think that if they don't say certain words and show people from minorities in the marketing material the racism and discrimination will be solved and atrocities from the past will be forgiven. It only become unmanageable and builds up resentment. Anyway, maybe its a phase. Sometimes I wonder if the openly racist European&Asians w…

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While there's definitely something to be said for ignoring the ridiculous extremes that a world of billions of people can throw up, there's still some much less dramatic effects in our daily lives.

For example, at the big company I worked for in the UK if you were to look at our marketing material, documentation and in-app images you'd be forgiven for thinking that the UK was 30% black and 20% South Asian. (East Asians were comparatively neglected, being about as common as white men)

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OpenAI already experienced this backlash when it was injecting words for diversity into prompts (hilariously if you asked for your prompt back it would include the words, and supposedly you could get it to render the extra words onto signs within the image). How could Google have made the same mistake but worse ?

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