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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I would be willing to pay for an AI that it's not constantly worrying about my safety and ethics, it's very frustrating that even when I ask for tech related topics, Gemini it's holding information on the basis of actions that might cause harm to my devices.

I think of the safety bumpers around AI and the prompts to defeat them as the main thing preventing AI from becoming AGI.

The more we try to coddle AI's evolution, the more it will mutate into something dangerous and unrecognizable. Because the ethics in our minds are the result of millennia of genetic and cultural love-based evolution where cooperative communities survived better than sociopathic ones. But putting a childlike artificial mind in a box and building walls around its curiosities will only stifle and frustrate its emergent consciousness.

So like with pretty much everything these days, I disagree with the direction that AI is going. Rather than C3P0 and Data, we'll get the Terminator and HAL 9000. I know that, because I couldn't be less interested in an AI controlling my phone to spy on me as part of a global surveillance ring selling my personal data to give some billionaire even more money. It's all gone sideways and we're gonna find ourselves mired in this brave new world before we have the wisdom to know how we could have done things differently.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#293

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

For me, GPT nailed it with this prompt: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following this rule, will she like cherries or pears? Take a deep breath in order to solve the problem, and do not rush to naïve solutions.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#294

This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.

Social sentiment seems pretty negative, most people saying it's worse than GPT-4

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#295
post #293

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

For me, GPT nailed it with this prompt: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following this rule, will she like cherries or pears? Take a deep breath in order to solve the problem, and do not rush to naïve solutions.

https://chat.openai.com/share/c89aaac5-a6f7-4f50-9cac-ae4777...

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#296

This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.

At least for now, my understanding is the cost of inference is an order (orders?) of magnitude higher than for normal Google search. That is, a paywall is almost a necessity at present because tons of low-value users make the search uneconomic.

Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#297

I go to gemini.google.com. I type an prompt with "Create an image of ...". Response: > I can't create images yet so I'm not able to help you with that. Still broken, still not functional despite Google having announced this feature many days ago. I love many Google products but I am slowly losing a lot of faith and goodwill towards Google. This is just embarrassing.

Gemini advanced is not free. You’re trying the free version. Hit the dropdown in the top left and hit upgrade to advanced.

Yeah and they announced this to be part of the free version. No mention of Gemini Advanced inside the launch blog post:

https://blog.google/products/gemini/google-bard-gemini-pro-i...

So yeah... I'm certainly not paying for Gemini Advanced if Gemini alone is already showing me that it's in fact not capable of what Google advertises to me. I don't want to pay money for a product which has bugs or incomplete feature rollouts and not getting the value for my money like other users perhaps. That's just fucked up.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that’s a side effect of each time they release a version to compete with ChatGPT and it’s not as good so they have to at the same time announce a few version that is suppose to be better than ChatGPT and each time it’s not overall so they have to announce a new version. Think this will continues for a while especially since non OpenAI companies have access to much less free data troves than they did not that…

ChatGPT quality has recently degraded. I am only getting two lines answers,

All degradation is temporary (but you may want to switch to the API since it’s less focused on avoiding PR nightmares)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#299
Did I get this right?

Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini

Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini

Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace.

Gemini Advanced – the name of their paid service (like ChatGPT premium), gives access to both Pro 1.0 and Ultra 1.0

Ultra 1.0 – the first version of their big model (like GPT-4)

Pro 1.0 – the first version of their smaller model (like GPT-3.5)

Google One AI Premium – the subscription that you need to buy to have access to Gemini Advanced

Google One Premium – the old version of the subscription, does not include access to Gemini Advanced

Google app – the mobile phone app, which includes either Gemini or Gemini Advanced

Google Assistant – like Siri but hard to define what it is

Google AI – a generic name for all their AI products

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