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Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by tylerchurch »

mcny wrote: post #202
dehrmann wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IMO you shouldn't censor anything. That's the only solution. Full disclosure: I work for Meta, but not on ranking, and my opinions are my own. Edit: this isn't specific to Meta; it's common to all content platforms. This is really hard. There's universally objectionable material like CSAM. That's (politically) easy to exclude. There are leaked state secrets the public should know. There's hate speech (laws vary by…

> but this doesn't scale for humans reading it, especially as you follow more people. Just having the option to not see anything I am not explicitly following and always seeing posts in reverse chronological order would be nice. Right now I barely ever go to Facebook because my timeline is a mess. I've manually unfollowed all my friends and yet the spam comes through.

> I've manually unfollowed all my friends and yet the spam comes through.

If you've unfollowed everyone what do you expect to see?

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

paulmd wrote: post #257
sgift wrote: post #231

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I don't remember the incident where Israel killed 1200 Palestinians on a music festival with unmarked troops. I'm sure Chomsky would find some justification for that too, but that's why the only thing I care about he did is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy - from there it's all been downhill, especially in the last few years. Before that it was at least from time to time worth thinking about.

that’s the cool part about being the hegemon: you get to wear uniforms while doing your atrocities, and you have tanks and planes and ambassadors wielding real power at the UN to prevent consequences. Just like the US killing hundreds of thousands of people in the firebombing campaigns of Japan was probably a war-crime. We wore uniforms while doing it. What are you gonna do about it? You already lost the war, not lik…

What do you suggest the US should have done? Did you look up war crimes Japan did in the rest of the world? Should the US have just let them roll over Asia and rest of the world? During the war, all cities that could be attacked were attacked.

Throughout history, wars were fought between inequal sides. Only a very few times did combatants hide among civilians.

> You already lost the war, not like you have any leverage.

How? Look up when Japan surrendered.

> that’s the cool part about being the hegemon: you get to wear uniforms while doing your atrocities, and you have tanks and planes and ambassadors wielding real power at the UN to prevent consequences.

Don't nearly all Muslim countries and a majority of the UN support Palestine? Aren't China/Russia on Palestine's side? Is there an UNRWA for the rest of the world? UN leans heavily towards Palestine and a ton of wealth supports them. Aren't Hamas's leaders billionaires?

https://nypost.com/2023/11/07/news/hamas-leaders-worth-11bn-...

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by gumballindie »

I have nearly no followers on Threads and follow only 2-3 people yet somehow I am bombarded with pro palestine content on the odd occasion i open it. I somehow doubt the guardian is right on this one. This “newspaper” is known to gave all sorts of dubious agendas.

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Post by dang »

brightball wrote: post #208
rottencupcakes wrote: post #31

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Twitter has surprisingly become much better since Elon purchased it. The community tags are great and non-partisan, they fairly report on all inaccuracy. Even advertisers aren’t immune, I’ve seen community tags on paid ads calling them out for being drop shippers.

In a 2 day span I saw George Soros and Tucker Carlson get hit by Community Notes. Gave me some hope that Elon is serious.

> get hit by Community Notes

How does that work? can anyone post a "community note", or by what process is that decided?

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by octacat »

UrineSqueegee wrote: post #12

Eh this is really tricky, for exampe if I open instagram, Threads or tiktok 9/10 posts will be pro-palestinian with 1 being pro-israeli. Then some of the propalestinian post will be calling for genocide or celebrating the massacre of oct 7. IMO you shouldn't censor anything. That's the only solution. When something is propaganda or false just quickly tag it as such with why it is false like Xitter does.

Even tricker that if there is not enough moderation, Apple could remove your app or some government would ban it.

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Post by gumballindie »

whats_a_quasar wrote: post #78

This post was flagged, but I don't think it should have been and I hope it stays up. I have been grateful that HN hasn't had the same level of animosity about the conflict in Gaza as other places on the internet. But this news article is about a core issue in tech, and should be discussed on HN. The whole world now uses social media to communicate, which means that when there's a war, partisans of both sides will be…

> My engineer brain wants to solve this by giving users more visibility into moderation decisions.

Politics are not an engineer’s job, nor is content moderation.

Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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Post by octacat »

dehrmann wrote: post #190
UrineSqueegee wrote: post #12

Eh this is really tricky, for exampe if I open instagram, Threads or tiktok 9/10 posts will be pro-palestinian with 1 being pro-israeli. Then some of the propalestinian post will be calling for genocide or celebrating the massacre of oct 7. IMO you shouldn't censor anything. That's the only solution. When something is propaganda or false just quickly tag it as such with why it is false like Xitter does.

> IMO you shouldn't censor anything. That's the only solution. Full disclosure: I work for Meta, but not on ranking, and my opinions are my own. Edit: this isn't specific to Meta; it's common to all content platforms. This is really hard. There's universally objectionable material like CSAM. That's (politically) easy to exclude. There are leaked state secrets the public should know. There's hate speech (laws vary by…

Does not scale, sure, if 2 posts are from random people I am not interested in, 2 posts are ads. Repeat. That is the current feed on instagram.

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Post by Qem »

SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #250
ipaddr wrote: post #221

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Genuinely asking… what has worked in getting hostages beyond the temporary peace deal? I saw Israel had already accidentally shot their own hostages who managed to escape Hamas. In a war like that, how can Israel even free the hostages by this dropping bombs method, if the hostages get out they will be shot by their own military?

> I saw Israel had already accidentally shot their own hostages who managed to escape Hamas.

For me, the most tragic aspect is that those three hostages where gunned down while shirtless, in civilian pants, waving white flags, because they were mistaken for three shirtless Palestinian civilians, trying to surrender waving white flags. The execution wouldn't be justified in either case, and is damning evidence of the treatment Israeli forces give Palestinian civilians.

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Post by wernercd »

pydry wrote: post #277
cm2012 wrote: post #187

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i've been seeing a fair amount of pro genocide / racist material on the israeli side, not so much on the pro palestinian side. The closest is seeing "from the river to the sea" creatively misinterpreted.

"creatively misinterpreted"

It's not a misinterpretation to take the meaning of the phrase as it's stated and understood.

That's like saying "blood and soil" doesn't mean what it means. Or Intifada. "Oh don't be silly... they don't REALLY mean that."

They absolutely mean it.

You're being disingenuous to deny the commonly understood meaning of a clearly genocidal phrase while defending it.

Then you complain of others being "genocidal/racist". classic.

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