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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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It tells us exactly the capabilities of Q . > Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company. Though only performing math on the level of grade-school students, acing such tests made researchers very optimistic about Q ’s future success, the source said.

Did you read my comment?

Yes:

> This article, predictably, tells us almost nothing about the actual capabilities involved.

The article tells us all we need to know.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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My mind went to Q learning.

My mind went to some kind of Q-learning combined with something like a Monte Carlo Tree Search with some kind of A*-style heuristic to effectively combine Q-learning and with short-horizon planning.

This was alpha-go and alpha-zero right?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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The moment I read about that clause I was shocked that Microsoft lawyers would agree to such subjectivity that can have incredibly expensive implications. Were they expecting it to never happen and were just ready to throw a mountain of lawyers at any claim?

The OpenAI charter makes very strong soecific statements about the capabilities that qualify as AGI. Microsoft is more than legally talented enough to challenge any proclamation of AGI that didn't satisfy a court's read of the qualifications. So it's facially subjective, but not practically once you include resolving a dispute in court. I'd even argue that Microsoft may have taken advantage of the board's cult-like b…

Isn't that definition just

"an autonomous system that surpasses human capabilities in the majority of economically valuable tasks."

That doesn't sound too subjective to me.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

Also there is this recent comment on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/16sdu6w/rip_ji... Prior post was 5 years ago!

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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It's nothing like that. It solved a few math problems. Altman & co are such grifters. > Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company. Though only performing math on the level of grade-school students, acing such tests made researchers very optimistic about Q*’s…

Yup, that would totally threaten humanity — with math problems instead of "find images of crosswalks" style capchas to the poing where humans will jusy give up /s

Well, solving the math problems today will be breaking crypto tomorrow, then using it to rent a lot of compute with stolen money, using that to fine-tune itself on every genomic database out there, then use its new capabilities to fold some proteins in its mind, send some e-mails to some unsuspecting biolabs, and tomorrow we're all grey goo.

/s, maybe.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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A link to 4Chan about how AGI is among us. That actually makes perfect sense. Also love the "formally declared AGI".

It doesn't read like the usual "redpill me on the earth being flat" type conspiracy theories. It claims to be from an Open AI insider. I'm not saying it's true, but it does sound plausible.

Man what isn’t Q involved with?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Mathematical logic doesn’t refer to ‘complex word problems with big numbers’. The reason that LLMs struggle (well, are hopeless currently) with mathematics problems is not because it involves arithmetic (although this is already enough of a struggle) but because it requires a conceptual understanding of the ideas rather than just being about manipulating language — a lot of the goings-on are hidden in the semantic wo…

I've seen it gets tripped up if you mix something common with something uncommon. ChatGPT chokes on, for example: "Two trains on separate tracks, 30 miles from each other are approaching each other, each at a speed of 10 mph. How long before they crash into each other?"

It is even confusing to me. The trains are on separate tracks but the question implies that they will crash into each other. Which could happen even if they are on separate tracks (very low chance but non-zero given there is a malfunction).

Now even if they are on the same track it doesn't mean they would crash into each other as they still could brake in time.

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