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Isn't that exactly what the research director wanted? As you said, he hates the business side and just wants to do research. So he got what he asked for.
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> OpenAI's board should book themselves for an IQ test, it is just beyond my understanding why they hate their own successful business so much. OpenAI's board doesn't run a business, they run a nonprofit with a mission oriented around safety and public benefit, not private profit. It has a for-profit subsidiary, explicitly subordinated to the nonprofit's mission, as a funding mechanism, but being successful at bringi…
They won’t be able to accomplish their mission without external funding, though (longterm anyway). Seemingly what they did significantly compromised their ability to obtain it in the future.
So I guess they’d prefer not accomplishing their mission at all instead of only partially (and having to compromise/change parts of it)? Which is not unreasonable if you assume nobody else will ever be able to catch up with them…
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#293Can someone help me understand what Sam's actual value is? He doesn't seem to be a particularly important practitioner/researcher re: AI and is "just" a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.
Hiring famous well known big names of the industry (even if they're useless and will just coast for crazy money) sends a strong signal to investors and will most likely boost MSFT stock price during this ongoing AI bubble.
And once the AI bubble pops as everyone learns AGI indeed NOT 'around the corner', Microsoft will silently let him go with a golden parachute in the 8 figure ballpark.
At least that's what I learned from watching the Silicon Valley satire.
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#294I don't buy it. If you listen to Sam and Greg, they want to change the world and bring us into a world of abundance that everyone can participate in. They were the ideators of this "awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company". Microsoft is setup to create shareholder value. That's it. Both of them will eventually find it moot to advance tech so a few folks get richer.
I say this without having really looked into what their latest stance is, but did the fame and money since forming OpenAI perhaps change their initial tune?
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Phil Spencer is CEO of Microsoft Gaming
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#297I thought Sam Altman is businessman, not researcher. What does he going to do in MS? MS does not need external investments. Probably that's the end of his career.
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#298I'm guessing this is the end of OpenAI. People aren't going to want to work at OpenAI anymore due to the value destruction that just occurred. It's going to be hard for them to raise money now because of the bad rep they have now. It going to be hard for them to hire top talent. You have two leaders, top engineers and researchers leaving the company. Google and Facebook come in a grab up any top talent that still the…
I wouldn't be so sure. There are a whole lot of people that want absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft.
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#299Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…
10 billion was potential investment. They transfer that in tranches, so lot of it is still in MS bank. They already have access to GPT3/4/turbo + Dalle 2/3. Plus with its hordes of lawyers, it will be an uphill battle for OpenAI to make MS lose.
yeah most likely they have like 6 billion left in the bank accounts which they'll redirect to the new AI lab
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#300Only time will tell how this will play out. When I come back to this comment years down the road, I hope we all will be in a better place.