Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message • Hacker News Board

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by paulcole » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:20 AM UTC

hkt wrote: post #152

paulcole wrote: post #142

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> Instead i'll just drop youtube I’d pay $100 if there was some way to legitimately verify this because it’s nonsense IMO. How is getting you to pay a reasonable subscription or watch ads in exchange for videos you ostensibly enjoy “gaming you”?

The data of rich profiles is enormously valuable to Google. They allow Google unparalleled ability to target ads elsewhere, too. That's the game.

OK, but they make YouTube. They make the rules of the game. Pay for it with $$$ or by watching Ads, don’t watch YouTube, or pretend there’s some kind of morality in stealing it.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by lacrimacida » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:22 AM UTC

steelframe wrote: post #206

Lots of people here who seem to think that the only viable options are to pay what they view is an exorbitant subscription fee, watch ads, or block ads. There is, of course, a third option. Nobody is forcing you to watch YouTube. You can just not do that.

Im thankful in a way since it makes it much easier for me to consume less and less and spend more of my time offline.

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Post by fshr » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:24 AM UTC

philistine wrote: post #286

thaumasiotes wrote: post #269

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Youtube-dl (well, yt-dlp, the non-dead version) will ignore the ads.

yeah but how do you setup a one-stop-shop solution to download the new videos from channels you follow?

I'd recommend a Python script on a cron/task scheduler job.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:25 AM UTC

ed_mercer wrote: post #230

spullara wrote: post #195

They have an ad free subscription. You should probably do that instead of leeching.

Leeching implies that there is party that is being inflicted damage. Alphabet makes $60B profit a year.

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Post by Mawr » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:26 AM UTC

mvdtnz wrote: post #92

_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

Mate if you get so much value from YouTube that you'll jump through these hoops just to use it without ads, why not just subscribe to premium? Personally it's by far my most bang-for-buck service.

I don't want to pay for what I don't use. I want a simple no-ad plan that I can share with my partner. I don't need and don't want to pay for Youtube Music, more than one other person, offline videos, etc.

I would also be incentivized by the ability to control how much of my money goes to each creator.

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Post by mmebane » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:28 AM UTC

gruez wrote: post #125

paulmd wrote: post #93

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> This, in turn, will spawn user scripts which work around the detection. Any client-side solution will be an arms race between Google and user script/adblock devs No, you can't adblock remote attestation. Trust me, the whole idea is cryptographically sound (with a proper implementation of course), people have been building out the remote attestation/TPM space for 20 years now. It is unambiguously possible to use a T…

>AFAIK at this point most of the "ripping" of decryption keys/etc for streaming content happens not by attacking the TPM, but by using android devices that are allowed to skate with reduced security modes, and just having a giant stack of them so when one device gets banned they throw it away and move onto the next. Without a TEE (eg. trustzone), you're not going to get anything above 540p, at least with widevine. No…

I unfortunately can't find references at the moment, but I've heard that some/most of this is done with nVidia Shield TV boxes which have the same Tegra X1 security flaws used to exploit the early Nintendo Switches.

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Post by tomrod » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:28 AM UTC

gruez wrote: post #118

momirlan wrote: post #113

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this comment never fails to appear on any Youtube blocker thread. Good for you that you pay Youtube , but stop rubbing it in our faces. each person has its own standards

>each person has its own standards What's your standard then? "It's my right to get whatever content/service I want for free and without ads, and I'll only pay if I feel like it"?

If I've ever contributed content that YouTube now shows ads on, absolutely. (I have).

YouTube is a video sharing platform. It's not sharing if I have to pay in cash or time.

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Post by rand0mx1 » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:31 AM UTC

lacrimacida wrote: post #290

cjmcqueen wrote: post #240

I like YouTube Premium. It's worth it. For a bunch of tech people... Wouldn't we see more people wanting to pay for software, a service and intellectual property?

How much from youtube premium goes to creators?

Why do you care? You are using Google's platform, just pay them.

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Post by flakes » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:32 AM UTC

stephc_int13 wrote: post #100

This is really heavy handed and I don't think this will work as they hope. I tend to spend too much time watching YT anyway. This will help saving some time to do useful work or gaming instead.

This 100%. Once the client becomes too hostile, I'll just stop using the service. I've been clear of Reddit since Apollo shut down, and if ad blocks stop working on youtube, I'll just find something else to do.

Apart from just Ads, I use the "Block Element" feature of uBlock to cut down on a lot of other visual noise within sites. For youtube I block the giant rows of "related" video suggestions (which I guess you could consider as ads), and youtube shorts from showing up in my subscription feed.

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Post by lakomen » Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 2:34 AM UTC

eertami wrote: post #120

kaelinl wrote: post #8

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This, in turn, will spawn user scripts which work around the detection. Any client-side solution will be an arms race between Google and user script/adblock devs. The only real way to prevent it is to withhold the video stream from the CDN until the client has streamed the full ad and/or bake it into the video stream. My impression is that Twitch does this for its live streams (although not VODs).

Well if they copy Twitch I suspect it will be circumvented very quickly. My adblock works just fine for Twitch, I do not see any adverts (unless I open using incognito).

Ublock isn't working for me on twitch.