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Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Death is not bad - without it life makes no sense. Being 30 forever and immortal would be my definition of hell. Death is doing a great job, leave it alone. Chugging 300 pills per day - you will still die. It is inevitable.

It is sad that you are insécable of finding joy and meaning in life without death. Go touch some grass.

you are reading something into my comment that is not there - I was saying immortal life would be a meaningless existence and no panacea to the human condition. Trying to escape death is not only futile, it is a waste of life. You are right of course, we should all touch grass more (I.e. really live) instead of trying to "solve" the human condition.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Michael Laufer from the Four Thieves Vinegar Collective gave a talk that included a bit about this at a 2018 Defcon talk at the bio-hacking village. You can watch it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzqEJM8B0h4&t=1935s . Entire talk is quite entertaining but this segment always stuck with me since I get cavities fairly frequently.

He gave a SkyTalk at DC30 on the same topic with a few more years of knowledge

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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I honestly can’t think of a dumber take. Longevity isn’t really about adding more years. No one wants to live another 10,20,30 more years how we currently do. But, if you can improve everyone’s health span, the amount of healthy, able bodies years, why wouldn’t you? It would be a great relief to our health care system. People can spend more time doing what they love without worrying about their body giving out on the…

I'll raise my hand and say I'll gladly live another 30, 300, or 3,000 years longer than we currently do. Why in the hell would I want to cease existing?

Yeah - I don't get this take. Always rings a bit fanatical where you believe in some heaven, or suicidal at worst. I enjoy my neurons firing, because if they weren't, i wouldn't know it.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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I just cant take this seriously. Why are Americans so afraid of death?

Not sure if you are kidding, but death is bad. I assume you don't want to die now, so why would you want to any other time? And don't say 'because I'm old', because obviously aging is part of the problem. Being 20-30 forever is the goal.

Can't wait to be a perpetually 20-year-old immortal Wal-Mart cashier because all the good jobs have already been taken by the other immortal 20-year-olds. Cleaning public toilets for the rest of eternity.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Hi! These are friends of mine. There is much more detail in the Google Drive (linked from the About page): https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/18ZDSe92LgLmS0sUb...

If your friends are looking for feedback, you can pass on that at least one person on the internet finds it in very bad taste for them to describe the delay in treatment as a "civilizational embarrassment" while planning to charge $20k for a dose. The pricing point seems equally a civilizational embarassment to me.

I can easily imagine someone who don't brush their teeth ever to spend like $1000 a year for cavity repairs (because, well, I did).

So I guess $20k is near to the market price you could expect people to pay for a lifetime (with refills and no cavities guarantee) for this product.

If $20k it too much for you, just wait for cheaper generics.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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It is sad that you are insécable of finding joy and meaning in life without death. Go touch some grass.

you are reading something into my comment that is not there - I was saying immortal life would be a meaningless existence and no panacea to the human condition. Trying to escape death is not only futile, it is a waste of life. You are right of course, we should all touch grass more (I.e. really live) instead of trying to "solve" the human condition.

You misunderstood me too. Go touch grass and see what is so great about living. Then I don’t think you can fairly say we should have less years to live.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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"This has, to our knowledge, caused no ill effects since." That's the kicker. Damn near everything has side effects. How and why the FDA approves some things but not others is a quagmire, but the truth is that almost everything has side effects. Sometimes it feels like every approved drug ad you see on TV will have some lawsuit 20-30 years later. Look at where we are right now with ozempic. We know one of the side ef…

Thyroid cancer is one of the least dangerous cancers being easily treated and not generally life threatening. Obviously it would be nice not to get it, but a small increase to the risk of thyroid cancer for a substantially reduced risk of cardiovascular issues and complications from diabetes seems like a very sound medical decision.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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Yes, sometimes it takes time, like in Japan the birth control pill .. "Campaigners here joke that it took the country 30 years to approve the contraceptive or birth control pill, but just six months to approve the Viagra pill for male impotence. Both became available in 1999, but the latter came first." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62515356

Well you have to take birth control constantly and a lot of very young women end up having it. You could easily wipe out a generation of fertile women if you didn’t do it correctly. On the flip side, old men (usually) that sometimes need to use a pill doesn’t seem all that dangerous.

Yes but, Women in the whole world took the pill since decades.

Re: Gene-Engineered Mouth Bacteria

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I'm 40 years old. Never had cavities. I eat plenty of sugar.

Are you good about brushing your teeth and flossing on the regular? Having lots of sugar isn't what causes cavities, it's not keeping up your dental hygiene. So if you eat a lot of sugar but brush well on a regular basis, I would expect you to not get cavities. Genetics play a role as well. My mom never got cavities despite never brushing her teeth, whereas my dad could brush pretty regularly and still have a cavity…

Depends. Nowadays yes, but younger no. I lived 2 years in west africa where clean water was a premium: I didn't brush my teeth much and drunk a lot of coke.
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