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The article had some interesting info, but didn't answer the key question that I still don't understand: how to these professional scalpers get multiple credit card accounts? Don't you need unique credit cards for each fake ticketmaster account?
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>It also is up in the air of the market value is really what people are paying or if it’s being inflated by scalpers Then use some form of a Dutch auction to sell them.
When you consider how fashion- and trend-driven music is the optics of tickets getting slashed in price because they haven’t sold for a month are terrible.
Those guys have something like 30 seconds max to hit their mark.
Now those are professional buyers. I think for your amateur crowd you would have to provide a bit more time. perhaps a week. just make it clear what is happening.
And that big clock, have you seen the big clock? if I ever made a dutch auction ticket site A big clock would feature predominantly in the ui. Unfortunately I don't think the flower auctions use the big clock anymore. which is a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAdmzyKagvE (tom scott)
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I was thinking about this recently, and came up with two possible reasons: 1. The enjoyment of attendees can be partly dependent on the enthusiasm of other attendees. Consider the extremes: an audience entirely comprised of people who hardly know the artist, but can afford it Vs an audience comprised of only die-hard fans, irrespective of their ability to afford a ticket. The first has a flat atmosphere, the second,…
Guess if you don't use a streaming music service you're SOL seeing an artist you look. This is such a Hacker News suggestion.
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If they wanted to eliminate scalping, they could just make the tickets returnable but non-refundable: Put your name on the badge. If you want to sell it, they buy it back at face value minus a restocking fee, and then resell it at original price. This would be much less of a pain in the ass for everyone involved.
The Royal Albert Hall Proms let's you resell via them. If it resells you get your money back, no cost.
With software there's no real need to take an admin fee...
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Because, ironically, a show that only rich people can afford to attend will be pretty terrible. Rich people tend not to loudly enjoy the show, so the atmosphere isn't there. This is bad for the rest of the audience and for the performer. It's hard to put 100% in when all you can see is a bunch of people staring solemnly at you. It happens in football (soccer for my American friends) for clubs like Man Utd (and probab…
> Rich people tend not to loudly enjoy the show, so the atmosphere isn't there Citation needed. Rich people are the main audience at all organized events of all kinds. Do you think you can take you and your kids to an NFL game if you're poor? The main attendees of Taylor swift? Women in late 20s - mid 30s working corporate jobs.
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> If a reseller buys the ticket, and then sells it again to the end user, Ticketmaster gets paid twice. So basically scalpers are being paid to be the scapegoat so Ticketmaster can make more money, at the expense of artists and fans.
That's right, there's no incentive from TM to "fix" this.
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OK but the tickets are going to different people. In most cases (music, sports) you want your tickets going to your best fans because the energy of the crowd improves the performance. We’re not selling wheat futures here. If the tickets instead go to rich people who may or may not show up, it could harm the event.
You're right, the future looks grim. Who knows how many layers of the reseller parfait you have to go through just to get a ticket? At some point it becomes prohibitively expensive and there won't be enough people that can afford to attend events. I wonder how much of this could be alleviated by selling a certain percentage of tickets at the box office only? I worked in operations for a pretty large concert venue sev…
The artists have simply decided to sell $1000 tickets instead of $200 tickets that get scalped for $1000
The article had some interesting info, but didn't answer the key question that I still don't understand: how to these professional scalpers get multiple credit card accounts? Don't you need unique credit cards for each fake ticketmaster account?