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Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Post by emidln »

pdimitar wrote: post #258
haraldooo wrote: post #256

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Sure they can.. but they can’t get around your outgoing firewall rule that reroutes alle traffic for certain ports to the proxy.

Hm, I have to see if Mikrotik has rule syntax for this. I can already force every app who thinks they will use their own DNS server to use mine but not sure how I could do the same with a proxy. Maybe just force ports 80 and 443? But what's stopping these apps to communicate on non-standard ports?

There's no reason to allow arbitrary traffic in either direction other than convenience. If you want a more secure network, you block everything by default and narrowly open as needed.

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Post by migro23 »

grishka wrote: post #282
elif wrote: post #265

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Because ads don't work on me, they just annoy me. Besides, my own devices should not act in someone else's interests. And, moreover, I'm an egoist. You want reliable income? Charge for your stuff then instead of relying on other people's empathy they may or may not have.

"Because ads don't work on me" I used to think like this also until it dawned on me that I have no idea where the motivations and reasons for my decisions come from. This is because they are almost entirely subconscious. And if they are subconscious we have no real way of knowing whether we are or are not influenced by advertising.

e.g., visited the Heineken Brewery in Amsterdam when I was a late teenager which was basically an advertising museum of all their advertisements going back to the 1950s. Before that day I had never drank Heineken but after that I found myself drinking it regularly for years. If you asked me if I was influenced by advertising I would have said no way. Now I'm more open minded to that possibility hence I use adblock to shield my poor defenceless brain.

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Post by pdimitar »

emidln wrote: post #291
pdimitar wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, I have to see if Mikrotik has rule syntax for this. I can already force every app who thinks they will use their own DNS server to use mine but not sure how I could do the same with a proxy. Maybe just force ports 80 and 443? But what's stopping these apps to communicate on non-standard ports?

There's no reason to allow arbitrary traffic in either direction other than convenience. If you want a more secure network, you block everything by default and narrowly open as needed.

That means I'll stop 99% of all outgoing traffic. Still interested in how to force all traffic to a proxy though.

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Post by lpapez »

fnord123 wrote: post #284
aidos wrote: post #271

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If you don’t care about the creators then why watch the content? Sure, the subscription might not make sense to you, but either the content has some value or not. The ads are the value exchange. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the ads either.

They made it addictive and it's not possible to uninstall on Android. You can only deactivate the application.

And what is the effective difference between uninstalling and deactivating it for you, assuming you want to do either of those to prevent over use?

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Post by ecshafer »

aidos wrote: post #271
ecshafer wrote: post #269

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Because YouTube ads like all ads are annoying. For the couple of times a month I end up watching something on YouTube by luck, why would I care about “creators”. I don’t use Spotify.

If you don’t care about the creators then why watch the content? Sure, the subscription might not make sense to you, but either the content has some value or not. The ads are the value exchange. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the ads either.

I am almost always following a link to YouTube, or watching an embedded video. I don’t really care about the content usually. It’s a means to an end

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Post by pierat »

elif wrote: post #265

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> I don't get why people block ads on YouTube, robbing individual creators. It's not like hulu or Amazon where you are just robbing megacorp and predatorial studios.

Simply put, fuck advertisements. And especially fuck loud, obnoxious, malware-laden, adver-shit. I will block anything that looks like an advert, malware, or otherwise against my purposes.

And do not forget that I'm simply preventing them on my computer, with software I control.

And "robbing"?? What a bloody joke. I never took anything, and I especially didn't use violence in doing so.

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Post by kibwen »

Shekelphile wrote: post #180
ohgodplsno wrote: post #159

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No, Google will keep fucking you over and destroying the Internet, whether you pay or not. Not to mention the fact that what they pay out to creators is absolutely pathetic. Go find their Patreon, their Ko-fi, hell their paypal, anything but giving Google 13 bucks. Adblocking Google is morally right.

> Adblocking Google is morally right. All ads should be blocked. I do not consume ads, and am not interested in paying a ransom to hide them.

Hear hear. I'm beyond tired of all these self-proclaimed hackers with their lips so far up Google's ass that they can taste what Sundar had for breakfast.

The ad industry is a scourge on humanity, and its gormless defenders are willing accomplices.

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Post by j1elo »

aidos wrote: post #271
ecshafer wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because YouTube ads like all ads are annoying. For the couple of times a month I end up watching something on YouTube by luck, why would I care about “creators”. I don’t use Spotify.

If you don’t care about the creators then why watch the content? Sure, the subscription might not make sense to you, but either the content has some value or not. The ads are the value exchange. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the ads either.

> If you don’t care about the creators then why watch the content?

Because he might not give a * about the creator or their way to monetization, but want to watch the content? And even then, the content itself doesn't seem to be that important either, seeing that they said "a couple times a month".

Probably it even falls under the category of "I watch it because it is there anyway, but I wouldn't miss it too much if the content hadn't been created to begin with".

I myself watch quite a bunch of YT with ads blocked and SponsorBlock to skip inserted product placements, because absolutely all of my consumption falls into that category. I wouldn't miss if tomorrow none of it was made any more. Well, maybe Smarter Every Day. But even then there are much better ways to support that channel. Most creators found out that real money doesn't come from YT but from sponsorships and side channels outside of the platform, anyway.

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