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Like any other non-coin crypto tech, Worldcoin doesn't do what it set out to do because it doesn't solve the oracle problem. If you trust their orb, it generates a wallet for you - but anyone, human or otherwise - can use that wallet. There's a black market in China for these identities already [1] and of course the response from Worldcoin was there's nothing they can do - because there's nothing they can do. So this…
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I’ve been told you can use Monero to buy drugs.
I've been told I can use USD to buy drugs too. In fact, USD is the number one currency on the planet for nefarious purposes, by an absurd amount. Monero has a 24h buy/sell volume of only $110m. What do you think the global volume is for drug/nefarious trade? Using crypto for "bad things" is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things. Given that Mastercard just stopped allowing debit card usage at Cannabis stores…
I never said drugs were "bad things". Some of them are, but some of them aren't. I was genuinely pointing out that getting access to certain unfairly prohibited drugs was a positive benefit that some people get from cryptocurrency.
> Given that Mastercard just stopped allowing debit card usage at Cannabis stores (which makes sense, it is a source of fraud with cashbacks), it seems like there should be a way that people can buy things without having to take on risk by carrying cash into a store.
See, there's another illegal drug you might be able to buy with cryptocurrency! My point exactly.
Like any other non-coin crypto tech, Worldcoin doesn't do what it set out to do because it doesn't solve the oracle problem. If you trust their orb, it generates a wallet for you - but anyone, human or otherwise - can use that wallet. There's a black market in China for these identities already [1] and of course the response from Worldcoin was there's nothing they can do - because there's nothing they can do. So this…
It's funny how, in the end, the ultimate and perhaps only proof of personhood is being a person, engaged in the world. Sort of how the ultimate decentralized currency is encompassed in the global market of rising and falling economic powers. The oracle problem is a problem because there are no oracles. There is only the test of time. Or something along that line.
Not even. People have been having double-lives for a lot longer than we've had the Internet. The difference is that in physical space it's a lot harder to do so, because you can only be in one place at one time and you have to move from place to place rather than teleporting. So if you want to catch someone in the act of, say, voting twice, you just need to trace their movements.
That being said, there are also plenty of situations in which we consider having multiple identities online to be a good thing. Facebook's "real name" policy - forcing everyone to tie themselves to a government issued legal name instead of just a consistent one - was and is cancer. The whole industry of V-Tubers literally runs on talent living a double life and a healthy dose of kayfabe. And we don't yell at character actors because Robert Downey Jr. is also Iron Man.
Anonymity is considered a vital bedrock of liberal values. But so is voting, and this is where being able to create additional identities becomes a problem very quickly.
Wikipedia has an interesting problem of "ripened socks" where people will register multiple accounts and keep them in reserve, specifically to defeat accusations of sock puppeting. This can be detected, but it's murky - are you actually a sock puppet, or do you just lurk Wikipedia a lot[0]? You could probably even go further and split your editing history across multiple sock puppets. Statistical analysis might be able to reveal that, say, two accounts tend to edit the same set of articles, but that would also have a high false positive rate and disenfranchise other editors.
The underlying base assumptions of the crypto crowd is a sort of extreme para-identitarianism. Anti-identitarianism in its extreme would be something like Japanese-style imageboards[1], with their obsession over anonymous posting. Identitarianism would be Facebook's real name policy. Paraidentitarianism instead wants identity to be a side effect of resource scarcity. An identity like a signing key is non-scarce, I can just make more keys, so you cannot hold elections by simply counting the signing keys. But the money in your Bitcoin wallet is a paraidentity: it is provable scarcity, and thus can be bent into a sort of identity, at the expense of disenfranchising everyone who has not bought into the system. In fact, crypto hucksters explicitly threaten people who do not buy their coins of being left out of their future utopia.
[0] I am in this situation
[1] 2channel, Futaba, 4chan, etc
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Except eternal damnation, allegiance with a supernatural being, lakes of fire, etc.
I'm going to be pretty pissed if the world lets itself get trapped into a technodystopian hellscape just because they didn't want to admit that those darned Christians over there got even a bit of something correct and therefore we gotta super duper virtue signal against that by slapping the shackles on as quickly as possible. What a dumb way to go that would be.
Worse, acknowledging even an accidental good tends to encourage lazy thinking and reinforce a very harmful system.
And calling them out every time someone tries to throw them a bone doesn't take away from the bad elsewhere -- such as VC grifting shit coins and their panopticon dreams.
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> After visiting an Orb, a biometric verification device, you will receive a World ID. Literally everything about this is a huge nope for me.
I actually don’t understand _who_ is advocating for this. Worldcoin seems like the peak of a top-down push to have perfect digital control over every human being.
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You’re misunderstanding how worldcoin works just like basically everyone who tries to criticize it. There’s no way to tie World IDs together between platforms. A unique ID is generated per platform from your wallet.
If they're all derived from a single source then isn't it possible it could be reversed? Or at least a relationship deduced? Given enough per-platform IDs
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What’s the “Oracle Problem”? Google gives me conflicting results
Try to imagine using a computer without any internet access to book an airline ticket. It doesn't really matter how many or which operations your computer can perform, it is not able to book an airline ticket unless there is another computer which can accept that booking and which your computer can talk to. The internet is next to useless for booking ryan air flights until ryan air puts one of their computers onto th…
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I've been told I can use USD to buy drugs too. In fact, USD is the number one currency on the planet for nefarious purposes, by an absurd amount. Monero has a 24h buy/sell volume of only $110m. What do you think the global volume is for drug/nefarious trade? Using crypto for "bad things" is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things. Given that Mastercard just stopped allowing debit card usage at Cannabis stores…
> Using crypto for "bad things" is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things. I never said drugs were "bad things". Some of them are, but some of them aren't. I was genuinely pointing out that getting access to certain unfairly prohibited drugs was a positive benefit that some people get from cryptocurrency. > Given that Mastercard just stopped allowing debit card usage at Cannabis stores (which makes sense, it…
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So founder of ethereum and his crypto/nft pal [0]. That does not seem to be a neutral and unbiased point of view. [0] https://nitter.nixnet.services/TaprootWizards/status/1676260... ("Eric Wall: troll-demon @taprootwizards [...]")