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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by phone8675309 »

TheCapeGreek wrote: post #131
kelnos wrote: post #103

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I'm curious why you aren't anti-ad. Ads are psychological manipulation. Why would you want to subject yourself to that? I was recently visiting some family, and saw the garbage my 7-year-old nephew sits through to get to the YouTube video he wants to see[0]. I can only assume we're just training a new generation of kids to believe that ads are a normal, inevitable part of every kind of media consumption. I agree that…

> I can only assume we're just training a new generation of kids to believe that ads are a normal, inevitable part of every kind of media consumption. Maybe? I distinctly remember doing my utmost best to ignore TV ads between my cartoons as a kid. Especially Then again, today's children have access to Youtube far earlier and with more control over what they watch, so you may have a point in that they're starting earl…

The cartoons when I was a kid were advertisements themselves with breaks for further advertising: He-Man, GI Joe, Jem, My Little Pony (the old series), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Transformers, etc.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by phone8675309 »

yetanotherloss wrote: post #31
dspillett wrote: post #30

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I block ads not because I'm completely anti-advert. I'm anti being-stalked-through-my-entire-life-and-having-my-details-sold-like-I'm-a-cheap-peice-of-meat, and unfortunately ATM blocking that also means blocking most online adverts. So I draw the line before sponsorblock. At least the content creators get a better cut of that than they get from YouTube monetisation & youtube can't take it away from them as easily at…

I'm completely anti advert. They declared war on civilization 20 years ago and don't deserve to be treated as anything but a parasitic cultural disease. It didn't have to be this way, but that's where they took us.

I agree with Bill Hicks about what advertisers should be doing other than dreaming up new jingles.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by callalex »

Gareth321 wrote: post #182
Zuiii wrote: post #96

I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

> Search for far-right content if search engine is US-based (suggestions please) I use a similar litmus test. I search for the website for the Proud Boys. Google doesn't just censor it. They place obviously hand-curated results critical of the movement on the first page. Bing is the same. DuckDuckGo also fails the test. Kagi and Yandex both pass this test. Google fails almost every one of these tests.

Please educate me: what makes the results “obviously hand-curated”?

When I search on DuckDuckGo I get a list of Wikipedia entries for its prominent members, and a few recent articles involving its members. In this case it’s their convictions related to Jan 6, but it seems like the articles showed up because they are recent in time, not because of some sinister plot.

Edit: To be clear I am not trying to discount your experience, I fully accept that the results you are served for the same term could be completely different than mine.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by callalex »

MichaelDickens wrote: post #259
varispeed wrote: post #227

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Just because Yandex passes the test, doesn't mean the can be relied upon. Remember, because they are Russian, it is in their interest to show you content that US corporations censor, but they may be censoring the content that Russia wants to be censored or manipulate it for the benefit of Russian propaganda. What I am trying to say is that it is probably better to get information from many sources as every can be bia…

Maybe the solution is something like a search engine aggregator? A website that sends your search to both DDG and Yandex and shows you the top 5 links from both, removing duplicates. That way if something is censored on Yandex or DDG but not both, you'll still see it. Something like that would be non-trivial to implement, but a lot easier than writing a new search engine.

Dogpile has been around since 1996. Now I feel like an old greybeard ;)

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by varispeed »

MichaelDickens wrote: post #260
varispeed wrote: post #227

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Just because Yandex passes the test, doesn't mean the can be relied upon. Remember, because they are Russian, it is in their interest to show you content that US corporations censor, but they may be censoring the content that Russia wants to be censored or manipulate it for the benefit of Russian propaganda. What I am trying to say is that it is probably better to get information from many sources as every can be bia…

FWIW when I searched WWII on Yandex, the top 5 results I got were: 1. Wikipedia 2. Call of Duty: WWII official website 3. Britannica 4. The YouTube channel @WorldWarTwo 5. history.com

While websites such as Wikipedia, Britannica, and history.com are trusted sources of information, they may not always provide a fully balanced perspective on historical events such as World War II. These sources, largely based in the West, can sometimes underrepresent or insufficiently emphasize the role of the Soviet Union's aggressive actions and atrocities in the lead-up to and during the war. Which is probably why they are so high on the list of results.

On the first page you get a link to https://wwiifoundation.org/timeline-of-wwii/ that doesn't even mention that Soviet Union invaded Poland and other countries.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by heap_perms »

ChoGGi wrote: post #236
varispeed wrote: post #227

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Just because Yandex passes the test, doesn't mean the can be relied upon. Remember, because they are Russian, it is in their interest to show you content that US corporations censor, but they may be censoring the content that Russia wants to be censored or manipulate it for the benefit of Russian propaganda. What I am trying to say is that it is probably better to get information from many sources as every can be bia…

> What I am trying to say is that it is probably better to get information from many sources as every can be biased one way or another. I guess it's back to dogpile for me... (if they still did the multiple search engine thing)

> Powered by Metasearch technology, Dogpile returns all the best results from leading search engines including Google and Yahoo!, so you find what you’re looking for faster.

According to their 'About' Page, they still do it right?

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by talldatethrow »

Zuiii wrote: post #96

I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

As a test for far right, try to find the Daily Stormer site. It moves every few months or atleast a year. Currently at dailystormer.in

Comes up on Yandex. Hidden by google

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Post by dp-hackernews »

Jenk wrote: post #230
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #189

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> geofences Geofences are a great way to start copyright reform. Bobby from Zambezia downloaded your new X-heroes movie, and you're complaining about piracy losses? How can you claim losses, if you're geofencing your content and don't want Bobby's money?!

I think having exclusive distribution rights within geographies is one such usecase for geofencing. This is why Netflix et al may have content available in some zones but not others.

It didn't work for DVD regions, so why on earth should it work for geo IP's???

The mind boggles!

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Post by hmm37 »

josephcsible wrote: post #290
vasco wrote: post #158

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So you agree that somehow the US has a stranglehold on Europe if they were able to make the continent believe what you say is a lie. Maybe you don't think it comes from WW2 or them having the biggest army, but then what is your explanation? Europe bends over just because? The USA has military bases all over Europe with people and missiles. That started with WW2. How would they not have huge influence on what we do? N…

> No european country has a random military base in Ohio or whatever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_oversea... says that Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Singapore (admittedly not European), and the United Kingdom all have military bases in the US.

Pretty sure training bases aren't the same as a normal "military" base, but rather to have their troops trained by US soldiers.

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Post by midoridensha »

carlosjobim wrote: post #250
midoridensha wrote: post #156

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>Advertising and propaganda have always been the exact same thing They're really not, though they are similar in many ways. They have different connotations: advertising is done generally by for-profit companies trying to sell stuff and make money, while propaganda is generally done by governments trying to shift or control public opinion. We have different words for these things for a good reason.

But is there really a good reason? The only difference is that one tries to make you buy something and the other tries to make you do something. It works in the same way, an entity trying to propagate their agenda.

Yes, there's a good reason, because those two things are different, as you yourself point out. Different words for different things.
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