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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by neurostimulant »

strunz wrote: post #152
zmmmmm wrote: post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

Pretty much all forum works like that. The admin can delete whatever stuff they don't like. But at least in fediverse, you still have an option to start over in another instance instead of silently accepting your fate. If admins deleting your stuff is a concern for you, then you can just run your own instance, which is not possible on proprietary forums such as Reddit.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by neurostimulant »

busymom0 wrote: post #195
strunz wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

That’s something I am trying to solve with my upcoming site LimeReader. The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too. I was hoping to have the beta already but I am now hoping to have it out this weekend. For those curious, I am the developer of HACK, one of the top rated hacker news apps for iOS and Android. https://limereader.…

> The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too.

Can you give us more details? How can you do this without creating double posts from multiple accounts?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by SSLy »

tim333 wrote: post #286
extr wrote: post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

As a Reddit user I'm a bit puzzled by these death or Reddit posts. I use Reddit by going to reddit.com with the old settings and it works just the same. Does the death of some third party app really matter? It would be like saying HN is gone because some 3rd party app on it that I've never heard of is gone. Honestly a bit puzzled.

For some people access on their phones is important. Old reddit www is bad for that, New reddit is much worse. And Apollo was an extremely well thought out app, there's certain niceness in interacting with such products during your lazy moments.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by Peanuts99 »

CivBase wrote: post #14

Still using Boost with the ReVanced patch[0]. No telling how long that will last though. Regardless, I'm massively scaling back my use of Reddit. [0] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wHvqQwCYdJrQg4BKlGIVDLks... Edit: For those interested, the patch just lets you use your own API key. But the dev is no longer supporting the app and there's no telling whether the bring-your-own-key strategy will work in the long ter…

Boost is still working for me on the standard API key. I wonder how long that will last.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by neurostimulant »

zacte wrote: post #116
PestoDiRucola wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On that note, does anyone know if there’s any decent lemmy mobile apps? I searched a bit but couldn’t find anything meaningful

For Android there's Jerboa which seems to have the most features and Liftoff which is still getting there. Personally I like Thunder which supports iOS as well, I got it off GitHub

While Jerboa is an app created by the core developer of Lemmy, it's not as official app and the developer treat it as a personal project and freely blocks any instance he don't like there. I understand it's within his right to do so, but I still find it concerning due to his association with Lemmy and how many people think it's the official app.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by busymom0 »

neurostimulant wrote: post #292
busymom0 wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s something I am trying to solve with my upcoming site LimeReader. The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too. I was hoping to have the beta already but I am now hoping to have it out this weekend. For those curious, I am the developer of HACK, one of the top rated hacker news apps for iOS and Android. https://limereader.…

> The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too. Can you give us more details? How can you do this without creating double posts from multiple accounts?

Each action from the user (post, comment, votes etc) are signed by their private key. The resulting signature is sent along with the public key. The servers and clients all verify the signature with that public key.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by 1270018080 »

bluedemon wrote: post #179
kaibee wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to make a lemmy account on my phone in between errands. Couldn't figure it out. I'll give it a shot on desktop, and I want a reddit replacement, but I wonder how many other people are gonna go to the same effort. Maybe that's a feature though, an escape from eternal September.

May want to try Squabbles.io too. Easier to figure out and it has a friendly community. It was featured on Product Hunt yesterday. It made it to the top 3.

Why is the UI so... terrible?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by neurostimulant »

lousken wrote: post #11

So where is everybody going after reddit?

I think Lemmy and Kbin has the most potential due to their federated nature. I have found several vibrant communities with interesting and thoughtful discussions across many instances there. Too bad some of the largest instances started doing these de-federation shenanigans recently. I'm on my own personal instance so I'm not affected so far, but it does concerns me. Imagine if Gmail de-federate from Yahoo mail so users of both sites can't talk to each other (but can talk to the rest of the internet). This is absurd and has the potential to kill the fediverse if the practice is unchecked. There has to be a way to moderate discussion without abusing de-federation.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by egometry »

extr wrote: post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

My only note: state the year (and month if possible) in the first paragraph of a story like this.

It helps for readers now, and archaeologists later!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by darreninthenet »

Messiadbunny wrote: post #232
basch wrote: post #192

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Why are the apps being charged for api access and not the people using them?

I can't think of any software that the end-user pays API fees or even supplies their own API key/token. I've only ever needed to supply that when interacting with APIs directly in a developer setting. That, or open-source projects that require API access from some 3rd party.

I recall a fairly brief period a few years back where Twitter rate limited 3rd party API keys so heavily the apps basically stopped working... so some apps just put a feature in to input your own API key which you could get for free as a developer key at the time.
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