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Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by sgerenser »

DaanDL wrote: post #201
coke12 wrote: post #76

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You can do this with brown paper lunch bags. Put some popcorn in a bag, fold the top so that it doesn't open when it expands, and hit the popcorn button.

Most likely all of these alternatives contain PFAS as well, except for putting them in the good 'ol kettle on the stove. Source: https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/science-technology/paper-b...

That article appears to be talking about the type of bags and wrappers you get from fast food joints. I don't think a standard "brown paper bag" contains PFAS.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by f5ve »

tabiv wrote: post #252

Recently my wife and I searched for a drinking water filter that would remove PFAS. We found one! https://www.clearlyfiltered.com/pages/performance-data-for-t...

It removes flouride as well, for better or worse -- one of very few available filters which do. (Some think flouride is good and some think it's bad.)

I have it, and purely ergonomically, it's the best filter I've ever used. It's also quite expensive with expensive filters that need replacing frequently.

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Post by xnzakg »

m_mueller wrote: post #166
sgtnoodle wrote: post #67

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That's why I take out a dozen or so unpopped kernels before popping the rest. It's easier to throw them right in the trash, rather than have to pick them out of the rest of the popped corn.

wait, how can you differentiate the unpopped from the yet to pop? (tbh. so far I'm just a premade popcorn buyer, so ELI5...)

Apparently, the reason why some kernels don't pop is because they have too little moisture due to the hull not being perfect and the moisture escaping[1][2]. So it seems like it should be possible to somehow go through all the kernels and remove most of the unpoppable ones? Maybe make something that weighs each kernel and removes ones outside a range?

1: https://americasfavoritepopcorn.com/blogs/all-blogs/why-do-s... 2: https://popcornity.com/why-some-popcorn-kernels-dont-pop/

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by dawidpotocki »

dools wrote: post #148
redox99 wrote: post #127

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Eating microwave popcorn every single day seems kind of insane lol

Until you realise that it's probably kids coming home from school and microwaving popcorn while both of their parents are at work still.

Until you realise that someone has to buy the popcorn, i.e. the parents.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

DriverDaily wrote: post #285
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #230

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What about all the other cities in the world? If the true cost of this damage were paid, 3M would be driven to bancrupsy. Maybe then the next conpany would not be so gun-ho about dumping strange chemicals. This is your regular reminder that many of the wealthy are only so, because they never pay for the consequences of their actions.

It’s hard to blame it all on one class. Littering was a social norm when these chemicals were invented. Even today, most Americans eat meat from factory farms, drive gas powered cars, and throw most trash in a landfill. Problems that will have to eventually be fixed. If you’re born into this kind of society are you going to handicap yourself by holding yourself to a stricter set of rules than everyone else? The ‘yes’…

> throw most trash in a landfill.

Is this some stranhe double-hypocracy?

If 3M put their crap is a properly contained landfill, millions of people wouldn't be poisoned!

'Sins of the consumer' is a toxic ideology!

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Post by selimthegrim »

jondwillis wrote: post #87
NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #46

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Take heart, because all the dishes and silverware in an upscale restaurant are likewise coated in contact poison. The reason being is that kitchens don't have the patience to air-dry their dishes, so they use chemical drying agents. These drying agents are toxic and they tend to leave a residue everywhere. So enjoy your fast food and know that you are in good company, no matter the number of Michelin stars.

Having just started my dishwasher with a rinse aid, I checked on some of the ingredients. All of them slightly toxic w/ little potential to bioaccumulate. Do you know what chemicals or products restaurants tend to use?

The commercial dishwasher rinse aids are much much worse

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33822149

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Post by bhandziuk »

arghwhat wrote: post #173
InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

Trick: Use a wok, leaves nothing unpopped and can use less oil. Also, more of the world needs this in their lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fG8rNHUspU (not bdg - well yes also bdg - but in this case the pep corn)

I like to use as much peanut oil as possible. like 1/3 cup. Make a nice heavy popcorn. Delicious!

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Post by professoretc »

interestica wrote: post #282
askvictor wrote: post #89

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Out of interest, why do you prefer a salt grinder? I've never understood why these exist. Pepper grinders, absolutely - the aromatics are released on grinding. By not so with salt. Curious if I'm missing something.

Grinder means finer salt. Finer salt sticks to things better (you can get a baby powder consistency). And the way the salt "tastes" is different because the powder dissolves on your tongue differently/quicker. Salt "dust" is a really interesting way of adding salt to food -- and you actually end up adding less than larger grains

I use salt flour for popcorn; it's essentially salt that is milled as fine as flour. There was a study (which I can't find now) which found that our perception of saltiness is based less on amount and more on surface area coverage.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #233
gretch wrote: post #79

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? You can show causation by having a test group and a control group. Just get N people. Have the control group eat pot cooked popcorn and have the experimental group eat microwave. You can’t get causation by just observing, but once you are willing to make someone do something, then it’s pretty easy to arrive at. I tried to verify the GP quote but actually couldn’t find it in the study - but if it’s true, people who…

> Just get N people. Have the control group eat pot cooked popcorn and have the experimental group eat microwave You can only control what people eat if you lock them up in a prison or similar institution. These days locking up thousands of people and experimenting with their diet is not cool. The best nutritional / food studies come from prisons and similar institutions.

The Army.

A lot of studies are done on high-level, competitive NCAA / college athletes. Both cuz they're, like, already at a university, but also NCAA has mandatory physicals, and high level athletics lends itself to controlled lifestyles.

Both tend to rule out most health issues as well; in theory you can be diabetic and play NCAA Div 1 ball, but selection bias tends to weed them out, while the Army explicitly does so.

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Post by datavirtue »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

I have stopped using paper towels after discovering those "flour sack" towels at Menards. I bought a lot of them so there is always a stack in the kitchen. They are a joy to use and easily replace paper towels for 99% of their functions. We still keep paper towels but the roll lasts forever now.
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