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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by mynameisvlad »

koheripbal wrote: post #250
theRBII wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on the content - not many people out there are directly doxxing themselves but indirectly? Maybe. From my post history on Reddit, you'd know where I live, my age, gender, job, relationship status and a good amount about places I've been and my interests. There are already websites that collate that info from a profile to give a summary of the user. Under GDPR, that quite possibly adds up to personal data rela…

The moment they post it publicly, it is no longer considered personal private content

That’s not the definition of personal data.

I can post my name publicly, but it’s still considered personal data. It doesn’t magically become a free for all just because it’s out there.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by qzx_pierri »

jmholla wrote: post #247
qzx_pierri wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In Twitter's case users are still part of the product as the existing network effects This is a nitpick. I'm speaking from the POV of keeping the site running, or not resorting to changing the site's essence to please advertisers.

My point was more in reference to GP's comment where even on a paid service, waging war on on users is waging war on your product. Though, after typing this out, that would seem to be even more so the case since that's where your money is coming from.

Ah, that makes sense. Good point. +1

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by bombcar »

brookst wrote: post #262
bombcar wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a weird interaction with Section 230 if Reddit can say "these posts are not ours, they are the posters" and yet the poster cannot edit/delete them. Of course, HN itself kills your edit window after a certain time limit, so there is some legal way of doing it, I assume.

Section 230 does not talk about ownership. A freight company is generally not liable for contraband shipped without its knowledge. That does not mean that all shipments become the property of the freight company. Same thing.

A freight company that took your freight, refused to give it back, and acted like it was now theirs would appear to own it.

If Reddit says "your content is yours but you cannot delete it" they're in a bit of a cake-and-eat-it-too scenario.

I'm entirely sure it's legal (as other forums/HN/etc do it too) but I'm not sure it's right.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by moi2388 »

comboy wrote: post #82
nik736 wrote: post #3

This is crazy! I like the following comment on kbin: > I said it before and I say it again: if you have the patience to do so then make sure you overwrite your content with chatgpt generated content, as the future AI that will feed on your post HATE feeding on already AI generated stuff. It makes the AI diverge. People should not be deleting their posts but actually just replacing them with random AI generated conten…

They own deleted data too. If I would be selling this data I would just cleanup all edits and deletes starting from a few weeks ago to a time when the Internet gets bored with the drama. In modern chaotic world usually the best weapon against something you don't like is to just ignore it (there are exceptions of course).

That is not how the GDPR works. They have to delete all information upon request or termination of the service.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by tanepiper »

jlpcsl wrote: post #294

Wow wow, Isn't this the violation of the Europen GDPR privacy laws. If you deletd it then they should actually be deleted, otherwise you are violating the laws.

Yes and the irony is I was in Oslo today, showing to people within the EU our PoC demo for IKEA.com - on how we can provide recommendations with no third party data - and with the idea of consumers controlling exactly what is used to provide it - including the right to delete it all.

This is the way we're going - totally the opposite way.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by paulmd »

e12e wrote: post #214
293984j29384 wrote: post #22

I can confirm a comment I made in r/vmware has been restored. I typically delete my comments after 24 hours. I have a single comment from 20 days ago that was previously deleted now back on my profile.

This will be interesting if reddit conducts business (sells ads) in the EU. Hard to see how having such old backups of user content isn't in violation of the GDPR.

How do you work GDPR in the context of a site like Wikipedia where the data is licensed CC and iterated on repeatedly by other users in the future? Do you have to flatly delete every sentence (or word) they’ve worked on?

Does publishing the dataset as CC sidestep GDPR? Because Reddit has published their dataset via fh-bigquery:Reddit in the past etc.

Using GDPR adversarially like this is interesting and I’m not sure where it stops. Technically all IP is originated by a human at some point and then sublicensed to an employer etc. Can you just ragequit and demand your workplace GDPR everything? How is the consideration of cash employment fundamentally different from the consideration of using the social network?

Not saying it should or shouldn’t be upheld but under maximalist interpretations GDPR is incompatible with IP sublicensing in general, if the originator always has the option to take back their content how do you ever reach an enforceable license?

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by DavideNL »

jlmorton wrote: post #85
popey wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Power Delete Suite to remove all comments from all public and private subs. They all came back today. So I re-deleted them again. I suspect it's more likely the site didn't process the deletions properly, rather than maliciously bringing them back, or as you suggest, that they were private. Edit: It's possible that the deletion only worked on public posts, after all, it seems?

I did the same a week ago, deleting fifteen years worth and several thousand comments using Shreddit, by editing and deleting, however mine have not been restored, so I doubt this was some kind of broad action. I very much doubt Reddit cares at all about the small number of us that have done this.

Me too… note that Shreddit first edits the comment, and then, deletes it.

Not sure if this would complicate a restore process by Reddit.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by DavideNL »

nottorp wrote: post #57
scandinavian wrote: post #23

I really think they are just misunderstanding something. When I look at my profile, there's no comments, but I know there should be some. Isn't it more likely that when a subreddit you posted in goes private, the comments don't show up. The people in the linked thread ran the delete script after some subreddits went private. Now when some are made public again, so are their comments. Comments that were never deleted…

I don't think the delete function actually deletes anything. At best sets a flag. If i wrote public forum software, that's how I would do it and batch delete only comments that no one asked to undelete in at least a few months...

Note that Shreddit first edits the comment, then deletes it.

So the question would be, if Reddit also stores comment edit history.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by spacebanana7 »

bjord wrote: post #276
jcranmer wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note this line that you quoted: "Please note, however, that the posts, comments, and messages you submitted prior to deleting your account will still be visible to others unless you first delete the specific content." The privacy policy is explicitly saying that deleting your account does not delete your comments.

This has always been the case. That's why you'll sometimes see posts from [deleted].

This makes sense for a site where all content is publicly available. Even if reddit were to cascade delete every comment and post a user had created, the data would be trivially available through web archives and public data dumps.

Changing the username to indicate the deletion of an account is helpful to show that a user cannot be interacted with any more, but no deletion process could truly remove content a user had created from the internet.

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