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Toyota: Car location data and videos of 2M customers exposed for ten years
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Re: Toyota: Car location data and videos of 2M customers exposed for ten years
#292I hope regulators fine the hell out of these companies. Enough to make them think twice about offering these upload everything to the cloud services no one really asks for.
It's a simple equation: Revenue = (value of data per person) x (number of customers) - (probably of data loss) x (probability of fine) x (cost of fine). If that number is greater than zero, they'll do it, if it's less than zero, they won't.
So fine them 100x the value they have obtained. Now unless they are 99% sure they can keep it private then they won't do it.
Although I still don't want them doing it if they think they can keep it safe, so may be make fines for just collecting it without opt-in consent.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not how democracy works. Apathy is toxic. Please stop hurting us.
The way "representative democracy" (in quotes because both words are a lie) works at scale of any large country is as follows: you elect people based on simplistic promises that they make, and if they win and you're lucky, they kinda sorta do something that's vaguely like half of what they promised. Your only recourse is waiting for N years to vote for someone else who will almost certainly do the same thing. Not onl…
This is a bad take. Representative democracy works and we have plenty of examples of that happening even within our lifetimes. Your negative outlook is a choice and it’s wrong. Do better.
We elect representatives at every level of government. In a country of 335,000,000 people a slow moving central government is a feature. If you really want to make a difference pay attention to your city council.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
VIN being visible through the windshield is a legal requirement in US.
More accurately, you can’t alter or remove the VIN. I don’t believe it has to be visible at all times. Some car owners obscure their VIN because of public sourced databases like Vinwiki. https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...
I don't know if there's any liability for doing that, but some of those car owners occasionally find out that their car was seized by the cops to "investigate". This might depend on state law, too. E.g. in New York:
"Members of the state police, any local police department or any peace officer acting pursuant to his special duties shall seize and confiscate a motor vehicle or trailer if any original identification number or special identification number is destroyed, removed, altered, defaced or so covered as to be effectually concealed."
Re: Toyota: Car location data and videos of 2M customers exposed for ten years
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way "representative democracy" (in quotes because both words are a lie) works at scale of any large country is as follows: you elect people based on simplistic promises that they make, and if they win and you're lucky, they kinda sorta do something that's vaguely like half of what they promised. Your only recourse is waiting for N years to vote for someone else who will almost certainly do the same thing. Not onl…
This is a bad take. Representative democracy works and we have plenty of examples of that happening even within our lifetimes. Your negative outlook is a choice and it’s wrong. Do better. We elect representatives at every level of government. In a country of 335,000,000 people a slow moving central government is a feature . If you really want to make a difference pay attention to your city council.
My outlook is from experience. I used to be a believer in representative democracy, but I simply cannot reconcile that with observations anymore.
Note, by the way, that I'm not claiming that changes don't happen in this system. What I'm saying is that changes happen when the ruling class is convinced it's time for them, not when the populace as a whole is - and no amount of voting changes that.
The fewer people each representative represents, the closer it is to an actual democracy, which is why city councils etc generally work better (although they are still far from ideal and have the same fundamental problems I described). But the nature of modern politics weaves local issues into broader ones on higher levels, and what ought to be local politics increasingly becomes national.
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
For Apple, Significant Locations are end-to-end encrypted, and Find My locations are only sent when requested and deleted after 24 hours. Please don’t say “they’re tracking your location anyway” unless you have evidence. This is Hacker News not Conspiracy News.
What evidence do we have that these locations are deleted after 24 hours and not backed up or shared elsewhere?
Because that’s what Apple says and Apple generally doesn’t lie about their products. If you don’t believe them then the onus is on you to prove it, not for someone else to disprove it.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a bad take. Representative democracy works and we have plenty of examples of that happening even within our lifetimes. Your negative outlook is a choice and it’s wrong. Do better. We elect representatives at every level of government. In a country of 335,000,000 people a slow moving central government is a feature . If you really want to make a difference pay attention to your city council.
My outlook is from experience. I used to be a believer in representative democracy, but I simply cannot reconcile that with observations anymore. Note, by the way, that I'm not claiming that changes don't happen in this system. What I'm saying is that changes happen when the ruling class is convinced it's time for them, not when the populace as a whole is - and no amount of voting changes that. The fewer people each…
I honestly can’t even follow this. So you agree democracy works but it’s bad for… reasons? Can you be more specific? You have “experience” but you can’t articulate it. Sounds like you’re just jaded. That’s not democracy’s fault.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read an article today about someone who was called by his daughter to transfer money. It turned out to be an AI deepfake. The criminal networks are pretty sophisticated.
>The criminal networks are pretty sophisticated. I’ve had to relay this on to people I train: It’s their job. It’s a business and it’s unreasonable for you to be better at aspects of it than they are. I think the slide is titled “Someone is going to be the goose, hopefully not you”.
It seems like the old Bell system with its monopoly rents was a feature then. Scams like this were impossible economically since even the cheapest long distance phone call rates were high enough to discourage scam call centres.
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I wonder why I can’t buy a game license in a similar way from somebody.
Because while the courts agree that legally licences are transferable, they haven't ruled that Valve and others should build a technical facility to allow this. Microsoft put themselves in this position by accident because they allow licence keys to be activated multiple times - so you're free to sell your licence to someone else and Microsoft has to activate it. While Valve can just refuse to build this functionalit…
This is incidentally often the real reason why big companies refuse to release seemingly 'obvious' features their customers would value.
Because of some adversarial legal precedent in a major market that would impair them more then the expected benefit.
Microsoft probably is moving away from selling permanent licenses partly due to this, for everything except those to large customers they can individually keep tabs on.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Every person that I've ever met who calls themselves a "prepper" has been what most would call an extremist. It seems like you have a cognitive distortion to work out. Amplifying an anecdotal sample to classify all people with a shared interest as having other characteristics of your sample is understandable but also misguided.
“I strive never to mute a person’s lived experience.” You, 3 weeks ago.
Yes, and?