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The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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post #270

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Won’t it actually harm big companies that own the majority of IP currently? It will empower individuals to benefit from creative works more cheaply.

The vast majority of IP is not owned by big companies. For every big picture movie there are hundreds of indie movies that will only get a few views.

You're measuring by len(all_media)

Surely a more useful metric is sum(all_media.value)

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of IP is not owned by big companies. For every big picture movie there are hundreds of indie movies that will only get a few views.

You're measuring by len(all_media) Surely a more useful metric is sum(all_media.value)

Price/profit != value. Sure, Hollywood movies bring in a ton of money, but I get way more value from daily indie youtubers than a blockbuster released once a month.

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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Okay, but how many is it? How many VP-backed ones complain vs small businesses that don't? How do we control for the small businesses that just have no voice and toil away quietly?

If you want total freedom, unhinged and unlimited capitalism, not a single thread of law applying tor pursuite of wealth, well, bad luck, because you don't even get this in the US. Admittedly so, the US are scaringly close.

You seem to be replying to a totally different point. Did you read my question? If so, is there a reason you're not answering it?

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're measuring by len(all_media) Surely a more useful metric is sum(all_media.value)

Price/profit != value. Sure, Hollywood movies bring in a ton of money, but I get way more value from daily indie youtubers than a blockbuster released once a month.

Agreed but also Sturgeon's Law applies.

So maybe the correct answer is somewhere in-between

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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post #115

There’s a reason why Google didn’t release Bard to EU yesterday, expect that to happen more and more as they fall further and further behind.

It’s ok. Either Google manages to follow these principles, which to me look aligned to their announced intent for more ethical AI use, or they won’t, and that means their product won’t follow the basic ethical guidelines proposed by the EU, in which case, I’d rather it not be available in the EU (and I don’t understand how anyone would defend a company not ready to address these ethical concerns).

It's just a large language model trained on textual content. It's not going to hurt you.

Do you have to wait until every product you use is bureaucratically vetted?

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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post #14

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> One is neutering and the other is cultivating Now the question is: what are they neutering/cultivating. It might very well end in a "why did we start putting lead in gas again?" / "we can spray kids with DDT clouds right?" x100 moment

DDT wasn’t banned for harming humans. Actually banning it was probably bad for humans overall because of the rise in malaria (but we opted to make that trade off for environmental reasons). You should probably pick a better example.

> DDT is an endocrine disruptor.

> DDT is classified as "moderately toxic" by the U.S. National Toxicology Program (NTP) and "moderately hazardous" by WHO

> "research has shown that exposure to DDT at amounts that would be needed in malaria control might cause preterm birth and early weaning ... toxicological evidence shows endocrine-disrupting properties; human data also indicate possible disruption in semen quality, menstruation, gestational length, and duration of lactation"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Human_health

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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post #6

In theory I probably do agree with the bill as presented in the article, there are 2 reservations that should be bought up. Firstly, the EU has a history of crippling their native tech industry to the general detriment of the EU. It is quite possible that this will end up being one more nail in the coffin. Secondly, they're fighting economics on this one. AI seems to be cheap and accessible. In practice controlling t…

>the EU has a history of crippling their native tech industry to the general detriment of the EU. It is quite possible that this will end up being one more nail in the coffin. The primary factor is brain drain. As many experts in geopolitics suggest, the European Union, in collaboration with Russia, could potentially rival, if not surpass, the United States in terms of power. However, it appears they are content to b…

Russia has absolutely nothing to offer the EU, unlike Ukraine.

Re: The EU AI act is coming, this time for real probably

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They could've released this at any point over the last few years, then worked together with industry to refine the conditions. Instead, they waited too long and now it's going to be a regulatory mess. The big winners here will be the lawyers.

Do people also win or can only one party win?

What are the people “winning” in this case?
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