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Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by gtirloni »

gtirloni wrote: post #62
Buttons840 wrote: post #46

Can someone share even one story where sudo reporting these "incidents" was helpful? This feature seems to come from a world where elite hackers simply repeat the same sudo command over and over hoping it will eventually work.

> Can someone share even one story where sudo reporting these "incidents" was helpful? No, not a single one.

HN puzzles me with these downvotes. I have not a single story to share about sudo reporting the incidents and that being useful and I've managed *NIX systems for 2 decades now. Anyway, looks like there's some people out there there feel very strong about this.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by meepmorp »

judge2020 wrote: post #189
Aeolun wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So did you have root access? I can’t figure out if you attempt to su all the system accounts worked or not.

Nowadays /etc/passwd is world-readable and passwords are in /etc/shadow but perhaps /etc/passwd used to store the hashed passwords as well.

Back in the day, not only did /etc/passwd contain (unsalted) hashed passwords, but many publicly accessible hosts were configured to allow anonymous FTP and let you browse the entire fileystem. I would never do this myself, naturally, but people collected those things and run crack on for days to get passwords for accounts.

Man, the internet's no fun anymore.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by astrange »

amelius wrote: post #256
astrange wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the married student housing computer labs. This is a good garden-path sentence.

Your parser needs more lookahead.

English isn't a context-free grammar so that wouldn't help.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by LocalH »

notatoad wrote: post #199
ww520 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Schools are supposed to be the place where students can break things and break rules. It's part of the education.

learning that if you get caught you're going to be held accountable for your actions is also part of the education. it's not as if they executed OP. telling a kid to stop screwing around is pretty reasonable.

They got lucky. There have been many people who even tried to responsibly report a bug, and were treated as if they were misusing the resource.

This is not just an education thing. Remember recently when there was a St. Louis reporter who found a glaring privacy violation in a Missouri state website (in that the website for whatever reason included people's SSN in the clear, but commented out. That reporter was initially treated as if they'd hacked the website and the governor of Missouri publicly spoke and said as much. Fortunately they weren't prosecuted, but even after prosecutors declined to do so, the governor still publicly called the reporter a "hacker".

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by koromak »

barnbuilder wrote: post #141

Social media communities really ought to observe a "leave no trace" rule with respect to GitHub and other such spaces. This commit from February 2022 is now as of today littered with a bunch of joke comments from being linked from here and previously somewhere else earlier (based on timestamps).

I don't know, it makes the internet a little more interesting. Its not really hurting anyone (in this case)

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by SushiHippie »

pram wrote: post #12

I was always disappointed it never summoned some grumpy graybeard unix admin from a dark server room basement to give me a chiding lecture.

Maybe not, a grumpy graybeard unix admin. But you can add "Defaults insults" to your sudoers file and get insulted when you type a wrong password.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by dsr_ »

amichal wrote: post #278
craig_s_bell wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be thinking of Zephyr, which was part of Project Athena. My school was using Athena, and I occasionally received zephyrgrams from people at MIT. http://web.mit.edu/sipb/doc/working/izephyr/html/izephyr.htm... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephyr_(protocol)

That was it! Thank you for the references

The Zulip chat system is explicitly based on the same ideas, if not the same code.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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Post by CRConrad »

fy20 wrote: post #215
notatoad wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

learning that if you get caught you're going to be held accountable for your actions is also part of the education. it's not as if they executed OP. telling a kid to stop screwing around is pretty reasonable.

During college in the mid 2000s I discovered that the network share with all corporate data was accessible (read only) to everyone. The only way it was not immediately obvious was because only sub folders were assigned a drive letter, and the network share was hidden in the UI. I found a way around that in the Windows open dialog and then was able to trigger Explorer to the top level directory. The share also contain…

Principal. Dunno if the principal had any principles.
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