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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by jimmux »

seoulmetro wrote: post #286
csh0 wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always had it as far as I know. I have a vivid memory of asking my father if he could see atoms too when I was between 5 and 8. I told him that when I stared at an object long enough, I saw little dots (snow). I must have just recently heard about atoms and mapped them to my experience. Fortunately he understood what I was talking about and said told me it’s just my eyes or my mind presenting me with bad data.…

Funny, I also believe I could see atoms. It works really well when you're outside in the sun, you look into the blue sky (but not into the suns direction) and then you'll see these atoms very clearly and it looks like you're seeing the oxygen move. This is actually not floaters and instead is explained as the blood vessels in your eyes moving blood. Believable, but it sure does look like you're seeing random "informa…

I assumed everyone can see visual noise too, based on my photography experience. Why wouldn't eyes get grain like film or a sensor does? I can see it under most conditions so maybe I just have higher ISO eyes than most people. It probably comes with my other neurodivergent sensory sensitivities.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by razodactyl »

Absolutely right - I have a feeling you anxiety further allowed your mind to burn in the connection as it repeated the damaged parts.

Glad you recovered, that would have been quite a horrible year.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by operatingthetan »

jimmux wrote: post #291
seoulmetro wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I also believe I could see atoms. It works really well when you're outside in the sun, you look into the blue sky (but not into the suns direction) and then you'll see these atoms very clearly and it looks like you're seeing the oxygen move. This is actually not floaters and instead is explained as the blood vessels in your eyes moving blood. Believable, but it sure does look like you're seeing random "informa…

I assumed everyone can see visual noise too, based on my photography experience. Why wouldn't eyes get grain like film or a sensor does? I can see it under most conditions so maybe I just have higher ISO eyes than most people. It probably comes with my other neurodivergent sensory sensitivities.

I have a feeling everyone can see the noise, but they just have never noticed it before. On the drug they noticed it, and after the trip couldn't forget it was there.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by klyrs »

kstenerud wrote: post #287
klyrs wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By any chance was this "one hit" done on a hot knife at the Pain Management Society on commercial drive pre-legalization? Because I've heard a similar story from quite a few people, several of them heavy users. No warning, and sent on their merry way without checking if they had a safe way to get home. Which I mention because getting lost trying to find home is a common theme in their stories. The people who knew wha…

Not on Commercial... it was downtown somewhere I think (this was 8 years ago and the day is a blur). There was a kinda grungy store downstairs that also sold grey-area mushrooms, and a "bar" upstairs. I remember the proprietor saying that they operated it as a "protest" against cannabis laws. They had these machines that instantly vaporize the stuff.

Different location, same delivery. It was a bit of a wild west before legalization. You had in one hit what most heavy users would consider plenty for a binge weekend. I'm glad to see those old shops go.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by ForestCritter »

frereubu wrote: post #168
siva7 wrote: post #13

Both those trip reports are very unusual for psylocibin and LSD. It looks to me that the author might have other health complications that caused the bad trips. As a general advice one should be very careful when taking psychedelics with other prescribed medications or having a history of mental illness.

Isn't this exactly the kind of response that the blog author is calling out? I have a friend who had no history of mental illness or prescribed medications and had an absolutely horrific trip that left him very unsettled for a good few months. The issue is that responses like this deflect onto other possible causes rather than accepting that sometimes people who could never have known differently can have truly dread…

I would agree with both you and the author. There is always a possibility of a bad reaction and that should always be taken into account. Weed combined with beer makes me black out, not pass out, walk around not behaving like myself blackout. And yet I can handle large amounts of tequila. Regular weed use makes someone else I know hyper paranoid, mean and agressive. Simply not everybody is going to react well and there is no telling who that somebody is going to be, so those that want to try it should be aware of the risks.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by heavyset_go »

Waterluvian wrote: post #124
Trasmatta wrote: post #79

I’ve noticed a troubling trend among psychonauts: any reports of terrible experiences or long lasting negative effects of psychedelics are waved away in two different ways: 1 - blaming of the person who had the experience, for not having the proper “set and setting”, or not respecting the drug. 2 - claiming that there’s no such thing as a “bad trip”, and only a challenging one that takes time to integrate. There migh…

> That it’s absurd how much suffering the human mind is capable of experiencing. When I was 8 or 9 I had a night terror that involved some sort of life-sized game of Tetris that was moving terribly fast. My brain wholly adopted the belief that if I were to lose, everyone I loved would die horribly. I was trapped in this night terror for what felt like forever. Afterwards I refused to sleep voluntarily for weeks. To t…

This is basically OCD distilled, from an obsession and the intense dread it causes like nothing else can, that might be able to be temporarily relieved via compulsion/avoidance/etc.

Not saying you have it, I'm just drawing parallels between the way people's brains seem to suffer.

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Post by oska »

cogitoergofutuo wrote: post #104

> Halfway through my trip, about 4 hours in, visual snow started appearing on everything. > On top of that, the loudest tinnitus you could imagine. This sounds more like a DO(C/M/B/I) trip than LSD. > I had dabbled a bit before with psilocybin, and don’t think it changed my life in any real manner other than showing me what mental illness is. The author had a negative experience with psilocybin, expected that that wo…

> This sounds more like a DO(C/M/B/I) trip than LSD.

I had no idea what you were talking about here, so looked it up. Link for anyone similarly ignorant :

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DOx

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by eurasiantiger »

oska wrote: post #297
cogitoergofutuo wrote: post #104

> Halfway through my trip, about 4 hours in, visual snow started appearing on everything. > On top of that, the loudest tinnitus you could imagine. This sounds more like a DO(C/M/B/I) trip than LSD. > I had dabbled a bit before with psilocybin, and don’t think it changed my life in any real manner other than showing me what mental illness is. The author had a negative experience with psilocybin, expected that that wo…

> This sounds more like a DO(C/M/B/I) trip than LSD. I had no idea what you were talking about here, so looked it up. Link for anyone similarly ignorant : https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DOx

Today many people learn that there are thousands of different LSD-like psychedelics (and other drugs) they don’t talk about in schools

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by eurasiantiger »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #271
rblatz wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wonder if the first time he drank he chugged a fifth of vodka.

If you did that you might feel bad and be dehydrated the next day but you won't be suffering from psychosis or have permanent brain damage. That's the problem with drugs. They're just not safe in the same way. No matter how hard the addicts cope.

Alcohol is more likely to cause psychosis than any drugs.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by oska »

kris-nova wrote: post #259

I often attribute the vast majority of my happiness and success back to psychedelics, trauma, and my experience living an unconventional and eccentric life. I could fill pages with the anecdotes, specific examples, and my personal speculation on why this is but i can just gloss over the details and skip to the takeaway: LSD has made my life net better. Another point I am trying to drive home is that this is what I wo…

> You have to face your fears and anxiety before you can understand them — before you can conquer them.

You can do all this without the use of drugs.

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