People may berate twitter as being a 'simple' app, but everyone uses it because everyone is already there. Substack can't clone that 'first mover' advantage.
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Completely agree with this. This is basically the perfect formula for creating mini echo-chambers. If Substack wants to make this a real competitor to Twitter, it needs to have the "two feed" set up that both TikTok and Twitter have: a feed for algorithm-based recommendations and a feed solely for people that the user follows. They also need to make it so that you can follow someone's notes without also following the…
Since when did "ignoring-shit-I-didn't-subscribe-to" become a "formula for creating mini echo-chambers" Is my email inbox an echo chamber because I don't get random newsletters from political activists?
Your email inbox isn't an echo chamber because it's not a social platform.
According to this research study, these are the two main ingredients: 1) Homophily in the interaction networks 2) Bias in the information diffusion toward like-minded peers https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2023301118
Substack Notes is their way to venture into the social platform realm, which differs from the personal email inbox model, which isn't a social platform. With that in mind, for ingredient #1: people can only see notes from people they follow. People will overwhelmingly only follow people that align with their ideas/political leanings/beliefs. This creates the homophily in interaction networks. For #2, users can easily share biased information to their like-minded peers without pushback/opposing views since their social network is comprised of people with the same viewpoints.
To be clear, algorithms can definitely create echo chambers as well but ideally an algorithm based feed will promote discourse and dialogue about ideas.
An anecdote: I follow quite a few people on TikTok that post about housing policy in NYC. TikTok's algorithm exposes these videos to people with varying viewpoints, which creates a ton of dialogue on proposed solutions and pushback on ideas that could potentially harm certain demographics/historical areas, etc. This pushback is very important but is only possible when there is a chance for those with opposing views to discover it, which means there needs to be an algorithmic recommendation feature.
If TikTok had no FYP and instead people could only watch videos from people they follow, this would create a closed loop system and those opposing views for housing policy would not be nearly as prevalent.
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https://www.secjuice.com/mastodon-child-porn-pedophiles/
That's the first I heard about this, but I don't really follow the space (neither Mastodon nor CSAM). Is "SecJuice" a reputable source / how legit is the report? The one instance I have any prior awareness of, the mastodon creator saying search is not desired due to negative social dynamics, everywhere else it was presented as a privacy and anonymity behaviour - crucially, both from those who agreed and disagreed (wh…
Here's the HN discussion for that article that puts it into context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33651693
The author is only speculating about Mastodon's search feature, and I see no actual evidence that the search feature is intentionally limited due to child sexual abuse material.
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#294People may berate twitter as being a 'simple' app, but everyone uses it because everyone is already there. Substack can't clone that 'first mover' advantage.
As someone who consumes twitter posts without even having an account, I don't really care if a 'tweet' comes from twitter or substack.
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Twitter's barrier wasn't that it was technically hard - it was that it was free and had critical mass. There still isn't much of a reason to move away from it, except for those who want to signal their disdain for Musk's political views
Musk is the least of my concerns, I can ignore his account if I cared that much. I can't really ignore that a lot of higher quality accounts have been interacting less because Twitter has become a technical mess, fucking up their timelines and notifications. This sort of loss is quiet, and slow. You only really notice it when it's too late, when your feed is nothing but mindless ads and random accounts you never foll…
> Musk is the least of my concerns, I can ignore his account if I cared that much.
You really can't tho. Even if you block him, he'll still routinely show up in your timeline when people tweet a jpg of his tweets. Even if you somehow ignore all that, he'll still do random shit like change the Twitter logo to a dog to make sure you don't forget it's his playground, and you're just an NPC in his main character existence.
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They really needed this to exist about 6 months ago or whenever it was that Musk bought Twitter. There was a mass exodus then to Mastodon, and if they’d have brought this out then I reckon they would have done a good job of immediately dethroning Twitter as I reckon lots of journalists and writers would have jumped on board. Now they’re going to have to do it the long hard way and try and build the audience organical…
There was no mass exodus. The sports and celebrity people are still on twitter. Nobody cares about rando journalists and techies, who are a vanishingly small part of the platform.
I don't follow that much of the sports world, but the celebrities are definitely shifting more towards Instagram. I feel like Twitter is rapidly distilling down to LinkedIn type hustle-culture influencers.
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I mean consider also: Imagine being in a position where you can spend 40 billion and it doesn't wipe you out.
Imagine spending only 30% of your net worth and getting to experiment with buying and growing one of the most used and talked about sites on the internet. If I spent 30% of my net worth I could buy a condo in the bay, possibly. Although odds are it would be worth close to that if I needed to sell it. But many people spend 30% of their net worth trying to start businesses with almost no traction. Musk spent 30% to buy…
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#298Looks like you can’t explore Notes without signing up? Bummer
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#299The sign in flow is completely broken for me. I am signing up with an email, after I click the verification link it takes me to a page where I need to enter my email yet again. Here it says I already might have an account and sends another verification email which does the same thing again. Also found other issues the site after going to the home page. Multiple modals overlapping with the sign in flow.
Same. Managed to get in by opening one of the links in Chrome instead of my usual Firefox. Haven't managed to set a password yet though. It's a real fucking mess.
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I didn't claim there was IP infringement. IG & lots of other companies stole the stories format from Snap. Makes it easier for users who recognize the ui, but it's still got to be galling.
>IG & lots of other companies stole the stores from Snap. I've been saying it since Twitter launched, but Twitter was/is just some folks stealing Facebook's status update.
I remember both MySpace and Facebook status updates actually being a copy of Twitter style updates. I don't think Facebook even had status updates as we know it today when Twitter released.