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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by aqme28 »

isaacremuant wrote: post #273
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I never understand why people feel like they can make such generalizing statements as "One of the European capitals". Europe is not a monolith. Different areas also have different problems. It's like the whole talk about "walkable cities" or healthcare. Everything is frame from a US perspective and simplified to an absurd level so that no contextual criticism is possible without descending into weird political tribal…

Because it doesn't matter which European capital. No country in western Europe has a higher homicide rate than the US.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by Mdubrov »

How many ex-CTOs of square have to die for it to be obvious that having thousands of junkies slowly decaying on the street in an orgy of madness and drugs might be a bad idea?

Not that this should matter, nobody deserves to be stabbed… but I knew Bob personally btw and he was a great guy.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by drstewart »

notamy wrote: post #289
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

> It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. A small point about language, in case you or anyone else didn't know: In English, it sounds weird to use "female" as a noun to refer to people. If, in that sentence, you would replace "female"/"females" with a word like "man"/"men," then you probably want to be using "woman"/"women" instead of "females." Using "f…

> In English, it sounds weird to use "female" as a noun to refer to people.

By "it sounds weird" you actually mean "in the past few years there's been a movement to hyperfocus on this small language quirk that nobody really cared about in the past". Just so we're clear.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by grumple »

happytoexplain wrote: post #49
fosk wrote: post #28

San Francisco has the notion that drugged up people out of their mind have the ability and the right to live in a civilized society.. Rule by common sense, not ideology.

Both sides of the SF topic are absolutely poisoned by ideology. It's a borderline un-discussable topic on the internet at this point, even on HN.

If you don't like addressing the reality the above poster stated, then sure.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by bestbuyer__ »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by lucideer »

kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I live in "one of the European capitals". It is super safe here, but there are still stabbings. The crime-rate is also enormously variable between European cities.

> No more.

Changing your habits based on a single event isn't particularly rational. If this were a comparative articles on SF crime-rates you might have a good point, but it isn't.

And I say this having had a shooting happen on the street outside my hotel room the last time I stayed in SF - one event isn't a pattern (though in fairness if you look at comparative firearm incidents between US & European cities you're a bit more likely to see obvious disparities).

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by pornel »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #278
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

There are daily stabbings in London. Often by minors.

Only in comment threads, not actual London.

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Post by francisofascii »

isaacremuant wrote: post #273
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I never understand why people feel like they can make such generalizing statements as "One of the European capitals". Europe is not a monolith. Different areas also have different problems. It's like the whole talk about "walkable cities" or healthcare. Everything is frame from a US perspective and simplified to an absurd level so that no contextual criticism is possible without descending into weird political tribal…

> never understand why people feel like they can make such generalizing statements

Simply to remain more anonymous.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by deesep »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #278
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

There are daily stabbings in London. Often by minors.

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by petodo »

isaacremuant wrote: post #273
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I never understand why people feel like they can make such generalizing statements as "One of the European capitals". Europe is not a monolith. Different areas also have different problems. It's like the whole talk about "walkable cities" or healthcare. Everything is frame from a US perspective and simplified to an absurd level so that no contextual criticism is possible without descending into weird political tribal…

Because it works in general? Even the worst country in Europe [1] (Latvia 4.9 murders/100k pop.) by murder rate is better than US average (6.6/100K) [2] with France 1.1, Germany 0.9, etc. So unless you choose extreme in Europe you are looking for sure at least at 3-5 times lower murder rates in Europe.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268504/homicide-rate-eu...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ...

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