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Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by MKais »

bradly wrote: post #136
simonsarris wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be great (unweighting bluechecks) but they actually plan to go in the other direction: Starting April 15th non-bluechecks won't show up in the "For you" section (the algorithm timeline) at all. Unpaid users are being written completely out of the algo. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972

I believe LeBron James said recently he isn't going to waste his money on a blue checkmark, so it should be interesting to see what stays and what goes.

NY Times, WaPo, LA Times and other major accounts too https://www.thewrap.com/ny-times-la-times-not-pay-for-twitte...

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by illiarian »

nebula8804 wrote: post #10
throwayyy479087 wrote: post #5

You gotta hand it to Elon - he actually did it.

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The angle, on the same day, or close to same day:

- API free tier gutted. The "hobby/student" tier is at $100 a month, next tier is "enterprise" https://twitter.com/TwitterDev/status/1641222782594990080?s=...

- For You page will only contain tweets from paid accounts: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by rvz »

Sebguer wrote: post #135
bluetidepro wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Today, the For You timeline consists of 50% In-Network Tweets and 50% Out-of-Network Tweets on average, though this may vary from user to user." I have spent significant effort creating a network and there you go choosing to ignore my efforts by putting in 50% of crap-I-don't-want-to-see. That is why I despise your algorithm. This is just one feed (the "For You" recommendations feed), they also have the "following…

If you try to use the Following tab on Android, every refresh brings you back to the For You tab.

Care to comment on this? [0] Surely Twitter hasn't open sourced and released the recommendation algorithm as you predicted right?

Or perhaps when a prediction didn't go according to plan, let us complain about another thing...

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35213705

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by madeofpalk »

Laaas wrote: post #134
dmonitor wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

immediately getting rid of the sparkle button is one of the few reasons i still have a small amount of faith in elon’s vision of twitter

- Open sourcing this - Lists as tabs - _Heavily_ reduced spam - Can look at Twitter without logging in I'm likely missing some other obvious/uncontroversially good changes. I still use Twitter and plan to continue using it. I am satisfied with most of his changes.

> - Lists as tabs

Twitter added this in 2019

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/23/20880372/twitter-lists-al...

> - Can look at Twitter without logging in

All the recent change was show non-logged in users the Explore view which is... better than the previously mostly nothing I guess.

Again, you've always been able to view tweets and browse profiles if linked to directly before Elon.

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by brink »

mseepgood wrote: post #273
montag wrote: post #236

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Elon is addressing this in the Twitter Space right now. "It definitely shouldn't be dividing people into Republican and Democrats; that makes no sense[...] you've identified something we should be getting rid of right away."

Does it make sense to divide people into Elon and not Elon?

You mean owner and not owner? I think it's fair.

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Post by Avshalom »

anigbrowl wrote: post #231
bradly wrote: post #136

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I believe LeBron James said recently he isn't going to waste his money on a blue checkmark, so it should be interesting to see what stays and what goes.

Most of the major news outlets are not doing so either. The Elon stans are crowing that this will be the long-overdue end of legacy media, but it strikes me that the new 'blue check twitter' might end up becoming even more of a social bubble than what it replaced. There are so many low quality accounts sporting a checkmark now that users who value substance will soon be incentivized to just block anyone they find ann…

yeah, they, uh seem to have realized that's gonna be a problem.

https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/twitter-business-month...

and of course all this means is that the organizations most likely to be able to afford it won't have to

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by robopsychology »

anigbrowl wrote: post #168
robopsychology wrote: post #117

Why are there two spaces instead of four in this Python code, it hurts my soul

Cost saving measure. This sort of emotionalism is why engineers need to kept out of the C-suite.

How is it a cost saving measure? Or are you being sarcastic? Hard to tell over text!

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by Calzifer »

montag wrote: post #236
tech234a wrote: post #85

I wonder what the "author_is_elon", "author_is_power_user", "author_is_democrat", and "author_is_republican" labels are for [1]. [1]: https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/blob/main/home-mixe...

Elon is addressing this in the Twitter Space right now. "It definitely shouldn't be dividing people into Republican and Democrats; that makes no sense[...] you've identified something we should be getting rid of right away."

Well, sounds like this pull request doesn't get merged. https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/pull/234

Re: Twitter's Recommendation Algorithm

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Post by anigbrowl »

cubefox wrote: post #193
anigbrowl wrote: post #154

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It's not. I follow a fairly small # of people (~500) and getting people to reliably show up in is a long-running problem. Following is not enough, you have to favorite or somehow interact with them sufficiently to be sure of seeing all their tweets. It's quite annoying.

Are you sure? I didn't notice something like this.

Very sure. I started noticing the issue a couple of years ago (well before Musk's arrival) because I'd find myself thinking 'I haven't seen anything from ____ in a while, I should follow that person', only to discover that I was already following them and their tweets were just not showing up. New follows will generally pop up reliably, but if someone has fallen out of your regular feed you have to work to put them back into it.

Just now (as I am writing this comment) went to check on someone I saw an interview with the other day, and sure enough I am still following the person and they have been tweeting a few times a day, but I haven't been seeing any of it.

Other weird things are Twitter's habit of just preemptively muting people (I'll sometimes wonder why a person didn't reply and go back to reread a conversation, only to discover that they did reply; and conversely, people that I have muted or blocked showing up in my search results for a trending topic. Most of the people I manually mute are 'influencers' who use software, staff, or pure obsession to get in the first reply to politicians and the like, a behavior I find insufferably annoying even if I agree with their position.

I'm very interested in politics, but almost all my mutes/blocks are people of somewhat-similar political persuasion that Twitter assumes I would want to see, and insists on showing me despite my best efforts. I want to keep tabs on the arguments of people I strenuously disagree with, because I already know my own opinions and don't need validation. It's easier in some respects to maintain a second account with an uber-conservative persona and let the recommendation engine just feed it with more of the same.

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