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I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Post by GeekyBear »

eviks wrote: post #289
GeekyBear wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All you have to do is get the app into your user account's purchase history. You can do that on a borrowed device and immediately hand that device back to the owner.

...and do that every time for a new app. Again, "all you have to do" is buy a new phone

Apple keeps the OS current on it's devices for twice as many years as most Android device makers. Are we pretending that the sort of person who keeps the same device for up around ten years is the sort of person who constantly loads new apps?

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Post by xboxnolifes »

returningfory2 wrote: post #223
Aachen wrote: post #10

> Feel free to skip this aside, unless you’re stingy like me. [...] If I’d buy a new phone today, I’d consider these options: It goes on to list only Apple devices. That's a bit dubious when being self-proclaimed stingy. One might recommend an off-brand device for a fifth of the price that will last half as long, or a competing brand for half the price that lasts just as long. Perhaps longer if you're interested in d…

Also they don’t list the 2022 iPhone SE with the lowest storage space (64GB) in that table. they’re “stingy”, but not stingy enough to consider the entry level model? Overall I find this article incoherent.

With how much storage everything takes up nowadays, I wouldn't buy a phone with 64GB either. My current phone is 64GB, and it feels like I'm always teetering the line of being full.

I don't even take pictures.

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Post by seabass-labrax »

sideshowb wrote: post #38

My friend recently was forced to upgrade his phone by ... our local rail company Transport for Wales. Their smart ticketing app dropped support for his old handset with their latest update. The app is essential if you want a flexible season ticket (a substantial saving over the regular fares) so upgrading was an obvious choice for him ... so much for sustainable transport though :(

Is it not still possible to print out the e-ticket (QR code ticket) in advance via the Web? That appears to be an option for all National Rail tickets sold in England at least.

Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Post by sideshowb »

seabass-labrax wrote: post #293
sideshowb wrote: post #38

My friend recently was forced to upgrade his phone by ... our local rail company Transport for Wales. Their smart ticketing app dropped support for his old handset with their latest update. The app is essential if you want a flexible season ticket (a substantial saving over the regular fares) so upgrading was an obvious choice for him ... so much for sustainable transport though :(

Is it not still possible to print out the e-ticket (QR code ticket) in advance via the Web? That appears to be an option for all National Rail tickets sold in England at least.

No, it's really so app only.

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #250
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #95

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You can install any version using AppStore++ which is available when you jailbreak. The older the phone, the easier the jailbreak. You can always download the app version that works for your phone using the Purchased section... the only real phone I have yet to be able to do this for is the iPhone 4 which did not have 64-bit apps. My iPhone 5S and beyond all have access to every app that is available for 64-bit OS. I…

You have to run a version of iOS compatible with jailbreaking, and know how to jailbreak. And then you have to maintain your likely tethered jailbreak that doesn't persist through reboots. And accept that you'll never get any security updates, even for major vulnerabilities. Sounds like a lot of hoop jumping and a lot of caveats. Even I, a pretty tech-savvy individual, wouldn't want to bother with that on my primary…

I didn't say it was easy. It's made a pain in the ass by Apple themselves.

However, it's not realistic to say "it's impossible"

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Post by TheHappyOddish »

SamBorick wrote: post #191
Reason077 wrote: post #74

C’mon, he’s still using a phone from 2016 (which was the low-end model even in 2016), and by his own admission it’s still pretty usable for most things. I think that’s a pretty good run. All the Android users I know have been through at least 3 or 4 phones in that period. And so have some of the iPhone users who obsessively upgrade every 2 years even though they don’t need to! (Typing this on an iPhone X from 2017…)

The hardware is still working. I think it's reasonable that the software should continue to work until the hardware is physically incapable of booting. An entire industry deciding that hardware "should" only last 6 years is shameful. (Typing this on a macbook pro 2012)

My 486 hardware still boots fine. However developers have moved away from it and the manufacturer no longer supports it. I can run community supported software on it.

How is this any different to the phone in question?

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Post by whynaut »

nikau wrote: post #290
whynaut wrote: post #229

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No, you don’t… we didn’t even have multicore processing in 1996. 1995-2005 looks very different from 2005-2015.

Funny, I had a dual pentium pro in 96...

where were you/what were you doing? That line didn’t sell well until it was reintroduced, IIRC. you’re right though, I may be off by a couple years but correct for most I suspect

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Post by nikau »

whynaut wrote: post #297
nikau wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I had a dual pentium pro in 96...

where were you/what were you doing? That line didn’t sell well until it was reintroduced, IIRC. you’re right though, I may be off by a couple years but correct for most I suspect

Investment banking area.

We had a bunch of DECpc XL dual Pentiums a few years before that too.

I'm pretty sure it was on nt3.51 at that stage with exceed for remote X windows apps and a bunch of bespoke win32 stuff.

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Post by fooblaster »

popol12 wrote: post #124
fooblaster wrote: post #50

This is what you get when you get trapped in the apple ecosystem. I'd consider getting a pixel 6a - I purchased mine for 150$ with a trade in of a pixel 2 and it will get 5 years of software support.

Are you aware that 2016 was 7 years ago ? The iPhone SE had 7 years of updates.

Given the costs compared to a new iphone I think the support window for the pixel 6a is reasonable

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Post by Technetium »

scarface74 wrote: post #179
l72 wrote: post #150

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Really? My ipad became e-waste because HBO, Hulu, and Netflix all released new versions of their apps for the new version of iOS, and then decided to cut the old versions off from their services. The old versions all show an error telling me to upgrade to a new version, which I can't do. The sole purpose of this ipad was for media consumption. I then thought I would use my ipad as a Shopify POS terminal for my side b…

You can still buy apps on iTunes for Windows can’t you and then download the “last compatible version”.

No you cannot.
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