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BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by SanderNL »

flangola7 wrote: post #277
SanderNL wrote: post #160

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That just.. doesn’t work that way. Edit: besides, if it could work you lose the competitive edge. I could describe a much faster more cost effective system which the machine can implement. And we are off to the races again..

If/when it is a generally capable intelligence it very much does work that way. That's how it worked with humans. We saw that stuff needed to work at scale and created something to achieve that.

I guess you are right about AGI. I think (hope) that is still off in the distance. We’d have other problems than scaling crud apps, I think.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by Tanoc »

bigbassroller wrote: post #2

I know this tech is terrifying to actual 3D artist who don’t want be a “prompt engineer”, but as someone who has never used Blender, I think its cool that I can create something using tools like this and use them in my projects, ex background animation on a website hero section.

This is terrifying to us, but not in the way you think. Tools like this place selective pressure so that increasingly only the best of the best get paid to make stuff, and their stuff influences the data sets in the future. The rest of us get forced out simply due to cost unless we're doing it as a hobby. Some artists know all too well their limits, and those that do are the most vulnerable to things like this, because these learning machines use the ever higher ceiling of human ability to determine the floor of their ability. You can't go back to the funky weird pasta men of Stable Diffusion's 2021 iteration as the default for example, but someone who started painting in 2002 might still have the same level of skill now as they did in 2010.

Text was paralleled first. Then sound was paralleled next. And now image is being paralleled. It will be on level with highest percentile of human ability just as text and sound were before it. Game devs and comic artists are already replacing texture and background artists with AI generated images, just as they used AI to create hundreds of thousands of lines of fluff dialogue before then.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by flangola7 »

SanderNL wrote: post #291
flangola7 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If/when it is a generally capable intelligence it very much does work that way. That's how it worked with humans. We saw that stuff needed to work at scale and created something to achieve that.

I guess you are right about AGI. I think (hope) that is still off in the distance. We’d have other problems than scaling crud apps, I think.

>I think (hope) that is still off in the distance.

It's being rumored that OpenAI is currently training GPT-5 which will be ready in December, and that many people in the company think it will be a human or better level AGI. Even if it isn't the consistently supersonic jumps they are making every generation suggests we don't have long until human brains are outmoded legacy hardware.

>We’d have other problems than scaling crud apps, I think.

Ever since I first interacted with the original GPT-3 in 2020 I've had the realization that our future was going to be curtailed and distorted into an inconceivable Escher piece. It seems that future is nearly upon us.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by golergka »

tekknik wrote: post #265
golergka wrote: post #41

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From the real education with courses on compilers, operating systems and databases, not 3 month bootcamps on HTML and JavaScript.

How many compilers, operating systems, and databases have you written? I make 6 figures, never took any of these classes (though I did write my own OS, and compiler). Why do you want people to waste time and money? Perhaps it’s time to split out those classes into some degree that’s more relevant to that work?

I don't need to write a complex software system to utilise my knowledge about it.

Also, I don't have a CS degree and that's not what I advocate for. I advocate for developers who spend years honing their skills and learning fundamentals of the craft.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by thebradbain »

tekknik wrote: post #258
gcr wrote: post #215

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USA and European university rankings have a strong bias against universities in the Global South (especially India), in part because of the stigma against Indian programmers and in part because they're generally wanting to promote US and European universities as the global leaders. If you're going to disparage a university based on nothing but ranking lists run by USA and Europeans, you're missing out. IIT students a…

So the racism card again? Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country? Would citizens of the EU and US not want to go to one of the best schools regardless of locale?

> Why would two independent governing bodies group together to oppress a single country?

Not that it’s the same, but have you looked at either of these countries’ pasts? Even relatively recently— the Marshall Islands, or still ongoing, in Mauritius/Diego Garcia.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

golergka wrote: post #295
tekknik wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many compilers, operating systems, and databases have you written? I make 6 figures, never took any of these classes (though I did write my own OS, and compiler). Why do you want people to waste time and money? Perhaps it’s time to split out those classes into some degree that’s more relevant to that work?

I don't need to write a complex software system to utilise my knowledge about it. Also, I don't have a CS degree and that's not what I advocate for. I advocate for developers who spend years honing their skills and learning fundamentals of the craft.

Spending years honing skills does not mean wasting time. In fact most self studies do it out of passion, which means a lifetime of honing skills.

I have also written a compiler and my own language as well as an operating system, and its usefulness has come up exactly once in near 15 years in the industry, and that was a very niche topic. Explain why, exactly, you need to know compilers and operating systems to write any modern day app.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by SanderNL »

flangola7 wrote: post #294
SanderNL wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you are right about AGI. I think (hope) that is still off in the distance. We’d have other problems than scaling crud apps, I think.

>I think (hope) that is still off in the distance. It's being rumored that OpenAI is currently training GPT-5 which will be ready in December, and that many people in the company think it will be a human or better level AGI. Even if it isn't the consistently supersonic jumps they are making every generation suggests we don't have long until human brains are outmoded legacy hardware. >We’d have other problems than sca…

My first encounter with GPT-3 messed me up too. Interesting.

I'm all over the place with this. Some days I think it's no big deal, but sometimes I'll get angsty about it.

Today, for example, I'm using it to generate some animations and stuff I generally don't like dealing with (math problems). I remember spending hours on this and not getting anywhere. This thing makes all that effort seem like handcoding websites in the era of templates.

Whenever it hits my direct line of work I'm like "no way that thing works, see, it did this small thing wrong and it proves it is fundamentally incapable of anything". When I use it for domains outside of my expertise I switch to "yeah, sure, but this was either already exceedingly obvious and/or nonsense busy-work to begin with".

News at 11: developer is arrogant.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by adaxx »

noisy_boy wrote: post #47
gaganyaan wrote: post #30

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Junior software developers will still have careers, they'll just have to learn a slightly different skillset that involves more reviewing of code, like a senior developer already does. Before sometime hits merge, they need to understand if the code meets all requirements, and it doesn't really matter who or what wrote the code in the PR.

They will be reviewing the unit test written by TestGPT for the code written by CodeGPT.

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