This is not cool. From the FAQ: > Even when Bard Activity is off, your conversations will be saved with your account for a short period to allow us to provide the service and process any feedback. This activity will not show up in your Bard Activity. Forget opt-in consent. They're ignoring explicit rejection.
This is just a toggle, it's not consenting anything. You already consented at signup.
Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK
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#292BAH. "This Google Account isn’t supported" "Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18." Smooth move, Google. PAYING Workspace customers should be the first ones to get access. This blows my mind. Oh wait, no… it doesn't. They did this with other devices and apps too. You couldn't use your Workspace account. You had to use a personal account. Really dumb…
That has virtually never been the case, it's generally always the opposite.
Because IT admins need advance time to decide whether to enable features for parts of their org or not, and to implement or update training materials. Also if a feature breaks it's worse if you're paying. Not to mention all the additional regulations around data retention/location/etc. that sometimes have to be implemented, that free accounts don't have to worry about.
So Google generally rolls out new features to free accounts first, and then it comes to paid once fully tested at scale and compliant and admins have had time to evaluate for their institutions.
This is a feature, not a bug.
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#293The point is, no one cares, google. - you probably are behind OpenAI ChatGPT, and far behind GPT4 in the tool's quality - people expect you to sunset the service soon either way, so no one starts to depend on it - at this point you are a parasite that siphons from and killed the world wide web in the process - your core value proposition (finding answers) is eaten up by the new chatbots that explain stuff instead of…
Google has got:
1. best data to train LLM
2. Best AI engineers
3. Money to spend on training hardware for LLM
I wouldn't keep Google out of this GPT trend so easily
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is just a toggle, it's not consenting anything. You already consented at signup.
Bundling of 'consent' is not consent.
> Please do not include information that can be used to identify you or others in your Bard conversations.
So, honestly, I've got to give them credit for being up front about it. Now if only they displayed the same warning for all their other products...
Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK
#295I'm curious for those who have actually tried it, what they think of the performance. A lot of the threads here are just talking about the country-limited rollout.
The performance is leagues ahead of chatgpt. It's really quick and can also Google information with like 0 delay.
But the first thought that jumped to my mind was you meant "performance" as in "quality" -> the believability/humanity of the "performance" of the chatbot.
It was a silly misunderstanding on my part but I suspect it's indicative of an important point: This product war won't be won on latency - people are happy to wait seconds for most of the scenarios, and possibly even MINUTES for many of them.
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#297To sign up with a different google account, you can use this: https://bard.google.com/u/1/ (increment number until you get the account you want)
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#298This hallucines way worse than GPT-4. Me: How many cities in the UK have a population over 1 million? Bard: There is only one city in the UK that has a population over 1 million: London. Me: What is the population of Birmingham? Bard: According to the latest 2021 UK census, Birmingham has a population of 1,144,900 people. This makes Birmingham the second-largest city in the United Kingdom. Me: So how many cities in t…
London - 8.8m - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London
Birmingham - 1.1m - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham
Manchester - 552k (2.7m urban region) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester
Glasgow - 632k (1m in the urban region) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow
They're not strictly accurate, but are reasonably close. Also, those Wikipedia numbers are from 2021.Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK
#299Me: As a part of Google, do you have my personal info? Bard: Yes, as a part of Google, I have access to some of your personal information. This information includes your name, email address, and phone number. I also have access to your search history and your location data. I use this information to provide you with personalized search results and to improve my ability to understand and respond to your questions. I u…
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As an aside, the name Bard is so low-effort and predictable, and a bit rubbish in my personal opinion. I would suggest the opposite. Choosing a good name is hard. You need to avoid naming conflicts, and ideally you have something short, easy to remember, pronounceable in many global language, semantic relationship to the name or at least avoiding poor connotations. It is much better than "New Bing"
Why not use LaMDA, the name of the language model behind it? (Okay I assume they thought this would be awkward should they decide to switch to a different model in the future. Or they simply liked "Bard" better.)