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Re: Twitter was down

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A simple and short lived glitch does not a #3 make. Twitter is better than ever now. Elon did good.

This is one of several different glitches and downtime seen this year. A revenue collapse of 40% with a surge in fake verified profiles does not make Twitter better than ever. It is crazy to see a sudden sharp 40% revenue decline being described as better than ever.

While I've no trouble believing revenue dropped, where are we getting this 40 percent number and surge in fake verified profiles data from? With Twitter now in private ownership, Musk doesn't need to disclose real data and to best of my knowledge hasn't really.

Re: Twitter was down

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Twitter Support just posted: "Some parts of Twitter may not be working as expected right now. We made an internal change that had some unintended consequences. We’re working on this now and will share an update when it’s fixed." https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/163279294226274713...

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Reddit crashes almost weekly it seems. Search is completely broken. The site's UI (new, not old.reddit) is truly atrocious.

And when it's not crashed it's slow as cold shit.

> And when it's not crashed it's slow as cold shit.

And stale. When they changed algos in ~2016(?) to try and stop certain subs I swear it got stale and feels like it updates on a cron job once a day anymore.

Re: Twitter was down

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A simple and short lived glitch does not a #3 make. Twitter is better than ever now. Elon did good.

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I blocked him and I don't see his posts any more. What did you try to do?

I'm the opposite of an Elon fan, but so many people don't seem to know how to actually use social media. Who/what you follow and who you block can completely change your experience.

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Where did this meme of them being a cash incinerator come from (other than from Musk, hoping people didn't look into the public statements)? Last time I looked, they had a few profitable quarters on the books. Looking at the last annual statement, I see a 200M loss on 5B revenue, with them sitting on 8B in assets, 2B of which is in cash. That's nothing close to a cash incinerator. As far as I can tell, tightening up…

> who appears to have made the problem 100x worse.

Where is that reflected in the quarterly earnings report?

Re: Twitter was down

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Exactly right, which is why this whole saga is so irritating to watch. The commentary is heavily biased and its exhausting to filter back to neutral. I just want to know the impact of many engineers leaving

You can never know the true impact because people will spin the narrative to say what they want. This hour-long outage occurred because Twitter laid off their engineers. Meanwhile, AWS had a major outage that lasted over half a day and took down Slack among other major internet infrastructure in December 2021[0], but we can't blame that on layoffs so we just ignore it, I guess. There's really no correlation between l…

There's definitely a correlation. But not having layoffs just doesn't mean no outages.

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PSA: Mastodon, Misskey, Nostr, Bluesky exists now. Just top 3 Mastodon instances(mastodon.social, pawoo.net, mstdn.jp) collectively has > 2mil users, same level as Twitter in 2008. Misskey, an ActivityPub/Mastodon compatible server software, now has >10K users. Nostr isn't much, Bluesky is still invite only and had just went past 2k registered, but those are all available options for direct substitutes to Twitter in…

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You keep repeating that in multiple threads. I've been on Mastodon for 5 years now and i've yet to see any. I'm not saying there isn't anything, but "flooded" it isn't.

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There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

4. The institutional knowledge is not gone, in the event of any massive catastrophe employees who previously worked at Twitter can return as “consultants” and charge very high rates to fix issues as they occur. It’s pay as you go.

>return as “consultants” and charge very high rates to fix issues as they occur.

Elon Musk has a rock-solid reputation of paying his bills, after all.

Re: Twitter was down

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There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

4. The institutional knowledge is not gone, in the event of any massive catastrophe employees who previously worked at Twitter can return as “consultants” and charge very high rates to fix issues as they occur. It’s pay as you go.

Massive catastrophes are averted by people with institutional knowledge correctly adding to the hardware/codebase over time, with new features that integrate well with old one, knowing how to scale hardware correctly, patches being applied, etc.

Not by bringing people in during a fire and pointing into the smoke and saying "fix that!"

Re: Twitter was down

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Yes, but my recollection is that the whale fail was usually due to huge growth or unprecedented traffic peaks. I don't think Twitter is growing at a fast rate any longer.

> my recollection is that the whale fail was usually due to huge growth or unprecedented traffic peaks My recollection is that around ~2011 a day without a fail whale was the odd one out.

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