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What is the minimal possible UK address?

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> It looks like it went through the automated letter sorter, too I understand the mail sorting depots can x-ray scan and read the contents of letters up to 4 pages of a4 folded, but that could have been hackers feeding me fake info in order to stop me writing letters. An example of the technique https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/02/researchers-re...

I'm not aware of any postal service that uses a method other then optical imaging for address reading. Further, in some countries such as the US, it is not legal for the postal service to "look inside" mail pieces without a warrant. While this type of 3D X-Ray technique is indeed possible it requires expensive specialized equipment and a great deal of effort, thus it being a major achievement for this university grou…

The Royal Mail in the UK is definitely allowed to open mail as a last resort to figure out where it should be returned to, the National Returns Centre undertakes this work. If the contents turn out to be something that isn't returned (e.g. a newspaper or magazine) it's destroyed, if it's a letter the NRC will try to figure out where it came from and send it back there.

Most commercial mail carries an return address written on the reverse to avoid the need for this, and of course letters you write by hand should also provide a return address in principle although you're much less likely to send stuff to the wrong address than a commercial operation - when I heard my cousin had moved just before Xmas I didn't send her a card, because there's no point sending it to the wrong place and hoping it gets forwarded eventually, it's just an Xmas card.

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They can be shorter. "I am sure some postcodes only contain one house number, in which case you could use just the postcode as your address, which would be quite cool. " Indeed. There are 55,540 full postcodes in England and Wales that contain only one household. This would mean you could just send the letter to the postcode itself. Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/fre...

Some very large organisations have also their own postcode. For example, if you want to write to HMRC about your self-assessment the address is: BX9 1AS, and that's it. Edit: moreover, BX is the non-geographic code, whereas 'normal' postcode start with a geographic code, which is usually an abbreviation of the town.

There are a couple of buildings in the US with their own zip code. The White House is one, as is the Empire State building.

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This works in the Netherlands too, and people commonly use the format for writing the sender address on the back of the envelope. Eg if you live on Braamstraat 11, 5614LK Eindhoven, you can write “5614LK 11” as the return-to-sender address and it’ll work. Post codes here are always \d{4}[A-Z]{2} so it’s obvious to anyone (incl the address scan computers) where the postcode ends and the house number starts. If you mai…

I recently moved here and really like that website that need your address here often have just 2 fields

house ___ postcode ____

you fill them in and typically it shows you the street name as confirmation (or complains that the house doesnt exist in the post code. Zip+4 was supposed to work in the US for this but i dont think people liked remembering another 9 digit number

Re: What is the minimal possible UK address?

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I was in Ecuador last spring and wanted to send a postcard back home to friends.

Long story short, you can buy postcards but there's no stamps. There's also no post offices because the national postal service went bankrupt a couple years ago.

I hear that maybe the national post office got revived in Aug 2022 though?

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Clearing out some old stuff from my grandparents, grandpa had at some point received a letter, from Stockholm, to their summer house in the woods addressed Thorvald The forest by

I've seen things done like that here in the US also. Something like... First Name, Last Name Blue house down by the creek, next to a yellow shed State, Town, Zip It works, sometimes. I think it's up to the postal carrier if they want to really try or not.

That's why it pays to be extra nice to your postal carrier. I've gotten a couple of packages delivered where the international sender clearly had no idea what a US postal address looked like, my name was completely mangled, but the zip code got it to the local post office and my carrier apparently said "there's only one person on the route who gets packages like that".

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is in fact guaranteed that house numbers are unique within a Dutch postcode. I'm not sure if that is the case in the UK.

In Ireland, each house / letterbox receives it's own postcode (eircode), 7 alphanumeric characters long: XXX XXXX. For example, the full address of the official residency of our President (Áras an Uachtaráin), could be written as D08E1W3.

As per a response to the top comment, it can also be written , assuming you get the good letter carrier.

https://www.her.ie/amp/lol/unbelievable-this-letter-made-it-...

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> unlike countries where a postcode represents an entire neighbourhood

¿Porqué no los dos? The largest cities in Poland have thousands of postcodes, some of them have ~one street per postcode (or sometimes a smaller part of it), so many postcodes have less than a thousand distinct mailboxes, and you can probably find postcodes assigned to a single building (that were not paid for or granted to a specific institution). And then you get to cities with around 200k inhabitants* and there is one postcode that covers the entire city, plus a few nearby villages.

* Toruń. (This previously said 120k and Gorzów Wielkopolski, but I found a larger city.)

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This is a fantastic post & I love mail art and experimenting with the mail. One thing I learned in the USA is that while a card can be 3x5 (LxW) it cannot be 5x3 (i.e. oriented in "portrait") because the machines aren't set up to read it that way. However, you can add $.20 in additional postage and write "No machine" so they hand-cancel the stamp rather than using the machine. This is useful for any time you don't wa…

while a card can be 3x5 (LxW) it cannot be 5x3...add $.20 in additional postage and write "No machine"

This is without a doubt the most useless bit of information I've gotten in more than a decade and I cannot wait to try it out. Awesome and thank you.

Re: What is the minimal possible UK address?

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Some brilliant examples of postal detective work in Ireland documented here https://www.quora.com/Can-you-send-mail-in-Ireland-with-the-... . eg Petra Kindler and Donal Moore Unfortunately I forgot the street name but it's near a street named *Cul de Sac* The beautiful city of Waterford, well known for its kindly postmen IRELAND

I've had An Post deliver some that weren't just partially addressed, but wildly inaccurately so.

The most notable example was addressed to "correct name, house number (no street), wrong city entirely". It arrived two days late, unopened.

I like to imagine there's a little old lady sat in a sorting office somewhere, who simply knows everyone's business. Everyone's.

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