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I never saw any clout attached to Akamai of all things, it's just "that other big CDN"
Isn't it actually the biggest? Cloudflare is popular because they have that crazy free tier, but Akamai has the biggest CDN network.
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I've been with DigitalOcean for a very long time, their prices seem comparable to Linode, I always saw them marketed more or less the same. In fact, I don't even know why one would pick Linode over DigitalOcean or vice versa
Same with Vultr if anyone still looking for options. Their new AMD power line is really worth looking into.
As long as they don't change any of the services, there isn't anything to worry about.
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Because they don't want to sell it to anyone who has ever heard of Linode. They are going to sell through their existing corporate sales contacts, as a new cloud compute offering by your pals at Akamai.
Does it mean that people who use Linode for Linode should be preparing to move out?
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I once heard a guy say the best way to get people off your platform was to just keep raising the price. Make a fortune off the few that stick around with fewer customers to keep happy.
I wish that was the case. It never formulated like that. If you raise prices your support burden also goes up. Your need to innovate increases. The gap between profitability and the funding needed to get there is wide. Hence most startups die.
Ethical? Probably not.
I'm hoping this means they will finally build a cloud product that can compete, but if the same management is there, probably not. What a sad product lineup and UX. DO, Hetzner, etc have much better products. But nerds love pushing buttons and looking at stats, so somehow Linode's limited functionality and constant maintenance-induced downtime don't seem to faze them. Brands are so weird. If they wanted to, they coul…
What products does DO offer that Linode doesn’t? I always thought they seemed pretty much equivalent for both price and features (though Linode did take an age to implement cloud firewalls). I’ve personally hosted about 30 servers with them for about 15 years, did look at DO a few times but it didn’t seem worthwhile to migrate everything over (and I preferred that Linode were privately owned vs the VC backed DO).
DO has managed website hosting, Linode doesn't (they just explain to you how to create a website, which is still you managing it)
DO gives you VPCs out of the box, but Linode basically doesn't, requiring clunky and limited custom networking configuration. VPCs are table stakes at this point.
DO has been offering K8s for years, while for Linode it's been sort of an experiment. (Even Linode's pricing for K8s was hidden for a while)
DO has had managed databases for a long time, Linode only recently
DO has provided object storage for a long time, Linode only recently
DO has the most amazing documentation and community forums of any cloud service provider. Linode has a fraction of the guides and very limited docs. They dump you into this doc wasteland which doesn't explain things.
DO products are intuitive, simple and easy, and just work. Linode on the other hand feels like it was designed by somebody's little cousin in 2003 (even after the redesigns, somehow the UX got worse). Doing basic things like configuring your VM's networking has a horrible UX, with stuff just not working at all with no explanation why (last time I used it).
For the people who never touch their VMs and never use new features, of course Linode seems fine. For people who want a better experience, DO blows them out of the water completely. And you don't get VMs constantly having maintenance windows with DO, or entire data centers constantly losing connectivity.
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This is what I've been worried about since the acquisition. I've been a loyal customer for over a decade and hosted jsonip.com there for 12 years. Now I seriously need to look for alternative hosting if/when the corpo overlords decide to start changing the offered products.
I've been with DigitalOcean for a very long time, their prices seem comparable to Linode, I always saw them marketed more or less the same. In fact, I don't even know why one would pick Linode over DigitalOcean or vice versa
I’m curious to the reasoning behind a decision like this. Part of what Akamai bought was the Linode brand name. Anecdotally as a user Linode’s brand seems to have a fair bit of value and positive reputation. Havent they just written off a non-trivial amount of value from what they just acquired? Or is it as simple as they really want brand consistency?
Checkout Hetzner. You will love their infrastructure. You will love their price.
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Point is that akamai does not want people as clients. Akamai wants big corporations as clients.
Then why by Linode, who's entire business model is small business and hobbiests?
The point is that Akamai is probably correct that all Linode really needs to change to be seen as viable by large corporations is the marketing. Its incredibly dumb that the world works like that even at the scale of large corporations that you would think would care less about being marketed to, but my experience has been the opposite / being tickled by marketing is even more important for big corporations.
It should also be noted that the people who choose infrastructure vendors are rarely the actual sysadmins in charge of the infrastructure. These kinds of decisions are standardized across large organizations (sysadmins would never be able to agree on something like that let's be honest) and the choices tend to be made by people who haven't set up a new server in a decade, (if they've ever done so then they are more technical than most in charge of IT purchasing).
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But they are starting with a customer base, some of which have been with Linode for over a decade. Way easier and faster to build reputation from that as a starting point. (And also already cash flow positive and profitable, ignoring the purchase=setup cost)
I think that's a lot of the point here. They won't be starting with that customer base if most of that customer base leaves because of these changes (which I think a significant portion of them may).