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The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by BlueTemplar »

SllX wrote: post #62
andrewjl wrote: post #51

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> If I upload a podcast to Apple, it's physically inaccessible unless you have a Mac or an iOS device. I'm curious if this sort of arrangement will remain in place in Europe once the DMA interoperability requirements come into effect.

I look at the DMA and I start to wonder if all Europe is really going to get out of this is “EU editions” of products; and not just from Apple. They’re certainly a lucrative market, probably deserving of their own SKUs.

Maybe. Note that, like most other US companies, and especially ones accused of espionage, Apple has been illegal in the EU since 2015, though enforcement of this has been understandably foot-dragging.

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by ilyt »

mikece wrote: post #3

"Under the hood, Apple stopped having each device request a copy of RSS feeds." Yes, because this was creating DDoS levels of traffic to podcast hosting providers. Now Apple simply pings madly away at all known podcast RSS feeds and updates clients when there is a new episode. What would be far greener -- and efficient! -- would be for them to get on board with PodPing[1] to not only deliver feed updates much faster…

Why the hell that stupid thing would need blockchain for?

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by kevincox »

ilyt wrote: post #292
mikece wrote: post #3

"Under the hood, Apple stopped having each device request a copy of RSS feeds." Yes, because this was creating DDoS levels of traffic to podcast hosting providers. Now Apple simply pings madly away at all known podcast RSS feeds and updates clients when there is a new episode. What would be far greener -- and efficient! -- would be for them to get on board with PodPing[1] to not only deliver feed updates much faster…

Why the hell that stupid thing would need blockchain for?

Yeah. WebSub works great. The only listed reason is that subscriptions only last 15 days which isn't true. There is no hard limit in the protocol, it just depends on the hub and clients limits.

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by _Algernon_ »

vmoore wrote: post #2

I deliberately don't use any of Apple's services, even though I own an iPhone. The only thing I use is the App Store, and even then I'm a minimalist as to what I install. If I want to listen to podcasts, I use the VLC Player app, and grab the podcast from the Podcast's official site, and then use iTunes to transfer the .MP3 to VLC, over USB. Cause I'm oldskool like that. If the podcast in question doesn't have a site…

Using iTunes to move files is just as much "using Apple services" as just using Apple's podcast app. All you have accomplished is making life harder for yourself.

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by simonh »

rhaway84773 wrote: post #283
simonh wrote: post #235

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>> They ARE the podcast industry. And they’ve been open. >Hmmm is this really true? They’ve accounted for the vast majority of podcast listeners since the early iPod days. It’s literally why they are called podcasts. They only dipped below 50% of listeners relatively recently.

Both podcasts and the term podcast predated Apple’s support of podcasts. The reason it was named as such was because iPods were the most popular listening device for podcasts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast

That's what I meant but you're right my comment could easily be interpreted differently, thanks.

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by [deleted] »

CharlesW wrote: post #94
karaterobot wrote: post #20

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> Apple isn't taking away self-hosted RSS podcast feeds. It's presenting a separate paid subscription experience within its Podcasts app. No "audacity" about it. If you don't want that as a creator, don't use it. It sounded to me like the audacious part was that they don't make it clear that, once you sign up for this service, your users cannot get your podcast in any other way than using Apple Podcasts, and you will…

> It sounded to me like the audacious part was that they don't make it clear that, once you sign up for this service, your users cannot get your podcast in any other way than using Apple Podcasts… You definitely can. What the author said was, "What I learned is that Apple does not produce an RSS feed for podcasts that they host". But this is misplaced outrage on the author's part, since Apple has never produced RSS f…

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Post by caeril »

MBCook wrote: post #170
tomxor wrote: post #102

> That’s right: if you host your show with Apple, the only listeners you can have are folks with the Apple Podcasts app. This feels like an absolutely wild choice from a product perspective; it’s the mindset of a company who still thinks that they have dominance over the podcasting world. It’s ludicrous to assume that it’s a good thing for listeners to have to have specific hardware in order to listen to a podcast. I…

Apple has controlled the podcast industry through the iTunes podcast directory since day one. They’ve been benevolent and haven’t cracked down on things. They let basically any podcast in for free. They let 3rd party clients use their directory for free. They ARE the podcast industry. And they’ve been open. I see this purely as a reaction to Spotify and Google and others trying to grab and control the industry with p…

> They ARE the podcast industry.

Huh. I never knew that Apple invented RSS feeds and hosting an mp3 file at a URL. Because that's all a podcast is.

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Post by BlueTemplar »

cool_dude85 wrote: post #38
RC_ITR wrote: post #32

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>they say it will have DRM I confused what possible definition of 'Digital Rights Management' could entail 'anyone can freely rip your files.'

How about 'nobody can freely rip my subscriber only files' but free files are free to be ripped? Seems like a reasonable interpretation to me. Even more reasonably, I might expect that I can freely rip my files regardless of DRM.

The original file creator doesn't have an issue with DRM anyway, since he has the original file.

The whole point of DRM is to try to restrict non-creators from making copies.

(An alternative that I might find acceptable is DRM that is removed after a short amount of time, but it would require laws with heavy fines on the violator companies that would "forget" to leave it up, and also not plan for cases like bankruptcy. )

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by gymbeaux »

mgraupner wrote: post #265
gymbeaux wrote: post #262

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My iPhone 12 Mini had gotten slow and the battery life was becoming mediocre (after only 2 years), so I spent the last couple of months looking at phones. I use Linux primarily, so I was looking at Android phones because of course iPhones don’t talk to Linux or Windows computers. Unfortunately I ended up with an iPhone 14 because without an iPhone: - I can’t use (or update) my Apple Watch - I can’t use/track my AirTa…

The iPhone 12 mini has an A14 and the iPhone 14 an A15 processor. Geekbench single core performance is 7% better in the newer one. I doubt you're "feeling" the difference in speed between these two phones. The battery life in the 12 mini was not considered good from the start, so it's understandable, that after two years the battery is in not so good shape anymore.

So I have the iPhone 14 Pro Max which looks to be about a 30% improvement.

Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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Post by jackson1442 »

ryanbrunner wrote: post #224
jackson1442 wrote: post #60

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> In the same way it doesn't make any sense to have DRM on music or anything else I pay for You're not buying it, you're renting it. A subscription is a monthly payment, you will no longer have paid access once you choose to stop paying for it. It has DRM for the same reason Spotify, Apple Music, et al. use DRM.

In the context of podcasts where there's a regular stream of episodes, it's perfectly reasonable to say that you have DRM free access to any episode that occurred prior to your subscription ending. It's how every single other podcast subscription service works. (full disclaimer: I run engineering for a competitive podcast subscription service, Supercast)

Totally agree in principle, but that's not really how the model is presented.
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