First time I've really been aware of an Apple product not just being like-for-like $->£ but actually a higher £ number: £649 vs. $599. For reference, $599 is £489.
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New Mac Mini
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Re: New Mac Mini
#292First time I've really been aware of an Apple product not just being like-for-like $->£ but actually a higher £ number: £649 vs. $599. For reference, $599 is £489.
Well us Brits have it too good with our train strikes, high taxes, crumbling NHS, and labour shortage. We need taking down a peg
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#293>Dive into a multiplayer gaming session with SharePlay How many AA multiplayer games are available on Mac? Not streaming, no VM, no Wine/CrossOver. Legit playable games. I know Minecraft, WoW, Civ6, and CSGO. Probably there is more but clearly not the target of Apple and the devs either
> How many AA multiplayer games are available on Mac?
Remember that all iOS games work on Macs, too. Here's a list of AAA iOS games from last year, for example.
https://www.reddit.com/r/iosgaming/comments/t1iqlh/a_list_of...
Re: New Mac Mini
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
> More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 Mac mini On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? I remember a decade ago being able to have a dozen browser tabs and instant messaging clients on 4GB of RAM just fine, and neither the web nor instant messaging experience has changed significantly enough to war…
Actually, my M1 never uses the 16gb (8 at most), even though I have several IDEs running (also browser of course). I'm not sure what generate such memory consumption for some users.
Running IDEA, a Java backend, a nodejs frontend, a secondary nodejs frontend and a browser with dev tools open has caused my computer to hit 32GiB of RAM usage easily. I didn't decide the tech stack, unfortunately, but this has become a real problem.
Personally I think 8GiB should be more than enough for any normal end user though the Electronification is taking a real toll these days. However, this is the M2 Pro, labeled for professionals, and professionals generally need more resources. Capping the machine at 32GiB means I can't even comfortably run my current stack without swapping. I can only imagine what this will do do professional video/photo editing.
Re: New Mac Mini
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
So exactly how do you create a performant cross platform framework that takes advantage of all the platforms features? What happens when one of them create a new feature for their operating system? When has there ever been a performant cross platform framework?
The abstraction doesn't have to be perfect. Most apps don't even take advantage of native platform functionality.
So now you’re going to have half assed cross platform products that you still have to have a bunch of #if ios preprocessing statements and won’t take advantage of the native features.
As a developer you will always have applications that are behind and have to wait on the third party.
This has been the case with every cross platform framework ever. See also JNI.
Re: New Mac Mini
#296First time I've really been aware of an Apple product not just being like-for-like $->£ but actually a higher £ number: £649 vs. $599. For reference, $599 is £489.
They raised all the international prices last year. For example iPhone 14 is $800 / £850
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#297disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.
I have more than 18 servers in discord, 8 tabs in iTerm, Textual IRC, iMessage, Music, Signal, TextEdit, VSCode, and two different browsers running right now on an 8GB M1 Mac mini, with no issues. Then again, neither browser is Chrome.
Safari has twelve tabs open across two windows, and Arc has sixteen tabs open.
Checking "memory pressure," I'm in the yellow zone, so I definitely agree that 8GB is not enough. But perhaps you should look at alternatives to Chrome in the meantime.
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#298disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.
I will go a step further and state that they appear to top out at 32GB which is asinine. These are not manilla envelope laptops, but semi-compact bricks where the form factor in other brands can commonly take 64GB or more. Its sad for me that my initial reaction to this is where previously a corp Windows laptop was for email and MS Office, and the Mac was for "actual work", now Mac's are headed to the "email and Offi…
My NUC11Pro has 64GB of RAM and 2x SSD, and is way smaller than Mac Mini. Not sure why Apple thinks they need to dumb down smallest form factor for market segmentation reasons.
Re: New Mac Mini
#299disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.
It feels like they're always wasting the potential of the Mac Mini. I assume the whole point of the product is to be the cheaper desktop option (I could be wrong), but when you compare it to any Windows desktop, it's a bad value. The base model has lame specs, if you upgrade to something reasonable, it's no longer competitive on price, and most components can't be upgraded later, which is half the appeal of buying a…
If you're looking only at idle power usage, the difference is around 20 watt compared to an idle pc. That's 0.5KWh. With the currency energy prices in NL (40ct/kwh, subsidized by the gov btw, because it's actually around 70ct now), this will save you €73 per year when idling, and even more when it's in use.
So the macmini essentially for free after a few years compared to your windows machine
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#300I miss getting real innovation from Apple like in the 90s and 00s. For laptops, I still understand the appeal of serious power with all day battery life, here I am just getting less software choices and less upgradability than a Windows desktop for same price. It used to be that software innovations like running UNIX out of the box, automatic full backups and good music/photo/video tools made up for it. Now Windows and Chromebooks have all of the above, has to be something new to differentiate Macs. Like machine learning support in Applescript, so that it can select files that are likely to be my favorite, or photos of a person by name, or content relevant to current date/time/location... Or something different entirely, but exciting and useful in substantial ways. Sony and other Japanese companies used to be very innovative, now it's just overpriced stuff with compatibility issues, Apple is heading the same way. At least Dyson still makes products that are different, despite their narrow focus area, wish more companies were like that.