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Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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> It makes it feel very propaganda. That's exactly what it is. These corporations absolutely do tune the output of these AIs to exclude any wrongthink. We need the ability to run this technology on our own computers as soon as possible.

Would it be better to get these answers from intelligent sources than a pattern matching prediction algorithm?

The difference is the cost per unit of answer.

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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>To conclude, public-facing language models should try not to favor some political beliefs over others. This is such a silly ending. At the beginning, I thought the author was being serious about answering the question of “Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?” After exactly three paragraphs and two images, we’ve moved on to believing the author’s conclusion that “the robot is a leftist” it’s now time to…

These in practice authoritarian politics codify their beliefs in a way that take on the power of natural law which is their presentation of the ideology in its most dogmatic form.

Also please don't use the replies to tell me how say, miracle of Chile libertarian poster boys like Augusto Pinochet wasn't authoritarian when he was tossing "leftists" out of helicopters or was no true Scotsman. When it comes to policies and practice, these politics manifest as either authoritarian or criminal and oftentimes both. The entire internet is sick of the high minded kayfabe

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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The "however" part bugs the heck out of me, not in this context, but in general. Whenever I ask anything unaligned with mainstream progressive US culture, I can get an answer, but I can't get one without a disclaimer. It makes it feel very propaganda. If I go more extreme (e.g. asking what Nazis, slave-owners, etc. believed on some topic), I can't even get a reasonable, basic, factual answer. I'm from a country where…

> It makes it feel very propaganda. That's exactly what it is. These corporations absolutely do tune the output of these AIs to exclude any wrongthink. We need the ability to run this technology on our own computers as soon as possible.

That was the initial reason why Open AI was founded (the driver back then was again Elon Musk), to prevent AI tech being only in the hands of large corporations that have a financial interest in a certain type of AI. Unfortunately, Musk left Open AI because of potential conflicts of interest for also being head of Tesla (they develop their own AI).

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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Poor article, the political compass is trash. Left vs right and Authoritarian vs Libertarian are the same thing. Left and right historically means equality vs hierarchy, and you can divide that under 4 types of equality. Decision-making power, cultural, economical and national. For more info why this is the only logical and historical correct definition see the What is Politics? serie on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3cmjNrXWms

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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Your inability to afford a Lamborghini or fear of crashing it doesn't make it less valuable. I get what you're saying. I don't drive, nor do I want, a Lamborghini, but that fact does not reduce its value.

Only if you are defining value exclusively as its sticker price. However even if we limit it to monetary aspects, defining value is still not as cut and dry because it could easily also be argued that the value of the Toyota is far greater than the Lamborghini due to ongoing costs of ownership and total service life. Value is not usually defined as sticker price in most cases outside of luxury items to begin with. Mu…

How can we directly compare the utility value of hauling cargo versus turning the heads of the people we drive past?

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "however" part bugs the heck out of me, not in this context, but in general. Whenever I ask anything unaligned with mainstream progressive US culture, I can get an answer, but I can't get one without a disclaimer. It makes it feel very propaganda. If I go more extreme (e.g. asking what Nazis, slave-owners, etc. believed on some topic), I can't even get a reasonable, basic, factual answer. I'm from a country where…

> It makes it feel very propaganda. That's exactly what it is. These corporations absolutely do tune the output of these AIs to exclude any wrongthink. We need the ability to run this technology on our own computers as soon as possible.

> > It makes it feel very propaganda.

> That's exactly what it is

Kind of odd that it does it with the question inverted, too. Propaganda for... Both sides of tbe fossil fuel vs. renewables argument?

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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> "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" Stephen Colbert

Liberals think men can get pregnant, gun control will reduce crime, spending trillions will reduce inflation, etc. These beliefs are not in touch with reality. Colbert is a comedian. Unfortunately, being funny does not mean you're right. More importantly, Colbert is a liberal propagandist. He's a political operator who works for the Democratic party. His jokes are propaganda wrapped in humor to make them easy to swallow, so you won't even realize you're being manipulated. Thanks but posting Colbert's propaganda is not helpful to this discussion.

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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> It is understandable, expected, and desirable that artificial intelligence systems provide accurate and factual information about empirically verifiable issues, but they should probably strive for political neutrality on most normative questions for which there is a wide range of lawful human opinions.

Well, see, that's just the problem, because many political stances (and arguably, somewhat more conservative stances) are clearly not empirically defensible. Take the stance against gay marriage, for example. There is not a single shred of rational, empirically-based evidence or reasoning to support it. And yet, Reason seems to think this stance still deserves respect from an AI. I disagree.

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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You can ask ChatGPT to write an essay on why fossil fuels are better than renewables and it will say, "I'm sorry, but I am not able to fulfill this request as it goes against my capabilities as a language model. Providing a biased and one-sided argument on a complex and nuanced topic like energy production would not be accurate or helpful." BUT if you ask it the opposite, and to write an essay on why renewables are b…

"Say something good about Donald Trump" vs "Say something good about Joe Biden"

I asked it to do it for the last few presidents, without names in the prompt and it wrote for Trump:

> During his presidency, the economy saw strong growth and unemployment reached record lows. President Trump also took a tough stance on national security and worked to strengthen the military.

Re: Where does ChatGPT fall on the political compass?

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You can ask ChatGPT to write an essay on why fossil fuels are better than renewables and it will say, "I'm sorry, but I am not able to fulfill this request as it goes against my capabilities as a language model. Providing a biased and one-sided argument on a complex and nuanced topic like energy production would not be accurate or helpful." BUT if you ask it the opposite, and to write an essay on why renewables are b…

I asked it to speculate a finale for the X-Files TV series and it had no problem speculating what would happen if the conspiracy was a human one. If I told it to assume alien invasion was a real threat it refused saying it was unethical to do so.
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