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I don’t want to be an internet person

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by _ktx2 »

> Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet?

I dropped off the internet while I was in the military and deployed, the answer is yes.

That said, I'd like to turn this on its head. It's normal for friends to go out of touch, reconnect in somewhat of a cycle. Some people stay constantly in touch, but not everyone. That isn't normal, and to be quite honest, would be super stressful for me. It's like juggling a dozen hot plates with pancakes being formed on them. You're eventually going to burn one or let it all burn spectacularly. My conclusion was that losing touch with a lot of my high school and college friends wasn't historically abnormal - staying in touch with them forever was.

It's also normal to have different depths of friendships. Not everyone needs to hear your deepest inner thoughts. This kind of summarizes what I think is wrong with social media.

Internet culture and it's subcultures are weird. That's to say, though, that any deeply entrenched culture is kinda weird. They have their own language, memes, attitudes, etc formed and influenced by the adjacency of it's members. That's to say, I look at sports people the way this person looks at the weird assortment they followed to a ketamine party. If you're going to a giant parking lot, ripping your shirt off, screaming, getting black out drunk, screaming at players, devoting precious memory to niche sports and player statistics - are you not mechanically the same as these folks? The difference being that your community is physical.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by noobermin »

_ktx2 wrote: post #291

> Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet? I dropped off the internet while I was in the military and deployed, the answer is yes. That said, I'd like to turn this on its head. It's normal for friends to go out of touch, reconnect in somewhat of a cycle. Some people stay constantly in touch, but not everyone. That isn't normal, and to be quite honest, would be super stressful for me. It's like jugglin…

>The difference being that your community is physical. And more socially acceptable.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by whatshisface »

fleddr wrote: post #109

A great way to test the difference between the online and offline world is to boast about something you accomplished in a family gathering, say thanksgiving. "I scored 3 goals in last weekend's game". That's wonderful! (nobody truly cares, but it's still recognized and celebrated.) "I got 40 likes on my last tweet" ??? "Wait, it gets better: 20 people watched me play a game. Had to stay up until 4AM but still, worth…

I think 20 people watching you do something would be mildly noteworthy even in the middle ages.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by antod »

Reading that made me think back to all those breathy Wired article from the early/mid 90s predicting the cultural future of cyberspace.

Maybe it was because the writing style seemed similar, but that this is the let down review article rather than the hyped preview articles.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by moloch-hai »

alduin32 wrote: post #89
WFHRenaissance wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This person admitted[1] to being the same person behind the Miya account. The posts made by that Miya account (they are public record, and has been archived since a long time by different accounts, see [2]) include : - calls for the extermination of Jews - calling homosexuality an "epidemic" and perversion - saying that "since we gave vote to *** we should give to gorillas too" - things like "a husband is to his wife…

Maybe look up "reactionary"?

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Post by hacym »

throwaway346434 wrote: post #243
hacym wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is an opinion piece a shallow hit job? If you’re reading this as some credible news… stop?

Picture this article being written a vi/vim user; about all of those "freaks who use emacs". At some point you realise the writer is doing the same kind of thing as the people described, their criticisms make a low effort to understand and declare the "other side" wrong, for reasons that are basically "I didnt like it". From other comments here, I've since learned there is plenty to criticise about the speech, action…

So you’re comparing someone who has encouraged young women to kill themselves to someone who users eMacs? I think you need to reevaluate your life.

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Post by kodah »

noobermin wrote: post #292
_ktx2 wrote: post #291

> Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet? I dropped off the internet while I was in the military and deployed, the answer is yes. That said, I'd like to turn this on its head. It's normal for friends to go out of touch, reconnect in somewhat of a cycle. Some people stay constantly in touch, but not everyone. That isn't normal, and to be quite honest, would be super stressful for me. It's like jugglin…

>The difference being that your community is physical. And more socially acceptable.

The point of my text was to flip what it is to be "socially acceptable" in the modern era on its head. Grotesque manliness at football events to many people is so off-putting they won't be near those events or people. Same can be said for these new internet subcultures.

Point is, I think if we zoom out this is just normal human behavior. To be something to talk about, to perceive yourself as someone, to have a common language, to have quirks and oddities. It's more about what you fit in with that describes what you find "weird". This author doesn't fit into this culture, but probably fits in to another culture that others on this post would find "weird".

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Post by bdowling »

bitwize wrote: post #113
jacooper wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lack of bothering to ask about pronouns Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. > use of the words "normal people" and infiltrating a group only to neg them to be more problematic than anything. Isn't it obvious that the people in this group are clearly not normal?, they even admit themselves!

> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with their friends and family about their gender identity, and have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns and pay them basic human respect and dignity.

> clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns

In my experience, this “clicker-training” consists of childishly threatening to kill themselves if others don’t give them what they want.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by spcebar »

dinobones wrote: post #150

What a boring article. Let people live how they want to live. Just because you don't like their lifestyle/personality/way of living doesn't mean you get to act like you're better than them.

That was absolutely my take when I read this, but reading the comments it sounds like there's some background to the character study that isn't elaborated on here. The criticisms in the article itself felt petty to me, but apparently Charlotte Fang has said some really terrible things in the past, and if I had to guess I'd say that's where the tone of disgust in this article is coming from, rather than them being a boring person.
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